Welcome to MojoPlays and today we’re reading the runes and unearthing 10 God of War fan theories that might be true. For this video, we’ll be looking at story elements that caused fans to read between the lines and come up with their own possible explanations for some of God of War’s most important unspoken moments. Our list includes The Oracle’s Identity, Kratos’ Immortality, The Other Athena, The Mask & The Rift, The Higher Plane and more! Have any theories of your own about the events of the God of War franchise? Let us know what they are down in the comments.
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Here's hoping it's Freya who helps Sindri come to forgive Kratos. If anyone can help him, it's her. If they ever make a new game that is.
Freya also hated Kratos and Atreus for the death of her son. But there's a difference between the deaths. Brok was a loyal and good soul. He loved his brother. Even finding out the truth about what Sindri did, bringing him back to life, he still loved his brother very much. Baulder on the other hand, had NO love for his mother. He was cruel and unforgiving for what she did to him, even after his curse was broken he still wanted to kill her. And the moment he started choking her as she tried to tell him that she loved him, he just choked harder and interrupted her saying that, there was just no love inside him. And at this moment, at Brok's funeral, Freya finally comes to terms with what kind of a person her son really was.
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I still think all the locations exist on our physical earth like Greece and Scandinavia, the nine realms just exist in like a different dimension but occupy the same physical location like Mimir said
Since he’s the one who created all mythical pantheons, I cannot help but imagine that Yaldabaoth/The Demiurge is involved.
Give me Kratos vs Jesus you cowards.
I’m pretty sure the rift had something to do with how kraits travelled from his reality
What about Stanley Ipkis finding THE MASK in the river?
There's clearly some higher being at the center of all creation. The fact that multiple realms and deities exist, and also the mask that doesn't seem to have any known origin. Something ties them all together.
Maybe the mask is the one from the movie the Mask… And de rift is route to earth den Jim Carrey picks it up… Who knws
i like the Tyr theory yeah the Norse Games has reshuffled the Eddas a bit making Fárbauti' and Loki aka Kratos and Atreus the Making central characters
I always assumed Kratos spoke more calmly in the 2018 game because he use to be hot headed, blinded by rage and overtime he learned to think before speaking as to not become who he was.
As for the Athena theory it does make sense for her to not be real Athena but a fake.
Kratos is technically a spirit, he lost his mortal body in the 1st game and pulled his soul out of hades. The 2nd game kind of confirms this when the hands of hades pull his soul back into hades. Every other time he fell in.
What about Faye being in a marble now, post-death? I'd say that'd be a fun twist.
I didn't tought that "Týr is a Aesir" was a theory… like: Gna is also a Vanir god and is not Freya's family, she was and old friend of Freya. To be an Aesir or a Vanir doesn't need to be from Odin's blood or Freya's and Freyr's blood.
Sorry for the english…
So this is multi-parted but basically Kratos being from Greece and not the Nine Realms affects Heimdall's ability to read his mind. Heimdall flat out mentions he can't tell what Kratos is thinking ("what is going through that mind of yours?") and only was able to dodge blows due to skill. Draupnir worked on Heimdall not because of the ring but because of Kratos' blood making it a weapon he couldn't predict.
But more importantly Kratos' blood affects Atreus. Heimdall, rather than being unable to read his mind, ends up reflected and reads his own mind. Everything Heimdall states reads more about him than Atreus (such as comments about how Atreus is entitled). Neither realize that Heimdall is reading his own mind… and proves true because when it is because of Heimdall that Asgard burns.
To build on the Greece Reborn theory: I think that its going to be revealed in a God of War spinoff starring Atreus that the Greece Realm and its gods were reborn as the Roman Pantheon. It would explain why their stories were used by the romans with just different names.
What would be fun with this is because Mars was more respected than Ares in this world Mars is a redeemed/repentive Ares who wishes to break the cycle and could ally with Atreus, becoming friends with the son of the man whose life he ruined.
There are some things that doesn't make sense in GOW like Cronus and Rhea. How can a normal size woman and a walking Mountain able to have a child like Zeus lol.
Kratos can definitely die he just can't commit suicide. He can't die of old age (due to being a God) and was cursed by the Greek God's that he can't take his own life. It's how he survived the end of God Of War 3 it was explained in the novelization of God War 4
Kratos standing up staring down Odin and calmly saying NO got me good everytime 🤣🤣
Honestly, if Kratos does kill the Demiurge in GoW 3…3, then he'll be lined up next to a certain group of Japanese teenagers, especially one who shot him in the face.
Persephone cursed kratos as punishment for stopping her from destroying greece and to prevent him from seeing his family.
The mask has greek letters written on it
personally I feel the green Athena in God of war 3 and 2018 isn't the real Athena in the higher existence we see in the comics. The one we see in the games seems filled with more hatred than guidance. She only appears when kratos is at his lowest or to berate/bother/ or remind him of his failures. Kratos constantly does that and has nightmares daily. But when we are in the self-forgiveness stage, we see Athena as one of the people he is truly guilty of killing. She always guided him where to go on an adventure, tried to give some insight, and shielded from danger when she could. One of the only allies he didn't need to question for the longest time. So my theory is she represents the hatred for himself and his regrets. They separate once he tries to die in god of war 3, removing himself from his regrets. So once he's at his lowest once more with atreus possibly dying of illness by his own mistakes Basically sentencing his family to die again, Kratos is spiraling in madness of what to do. She then appears again to mock him and remind him. Only when he's at peace with that and is off to heal atreus does she dissappear into specs. Permanently removing the tie binding them.
TL;DR the Greek rebuild theory can be a perfect way to introduce Roman mythology for a one off game!
I think with the rebuilding Greece theory, it would be interesting to see that story come to life and introduce the Roman mythology. If the people of Greece are truly rebuilding the then they could be easily conquered, especially if the conquerer is the Roman Empire one of the greatest empires of all time. Athena seeing this probably inserts herself as a being or godly figure(since she is a god) to the romans,(who have no concept of a mythology till they conquered Greece) introducing herself as Minerva. The romans seeing her then learns of the history of the Greek mythology and they adopt the mythology into their own renaming the former gods, areas as mars, Poseidon as Neptune, Athena as Minerva and Zeus as Jupiter. How to resurrect the dead Greek gods idk, maybe since the Roman mythology believe in it the dead gods get reincarnated or maybe Athena does something to resurrect them idk, but can you imagine the story potiential? This can legit be a one off game where we see kratos rebuild Midgard as we see from the prophecy, no mention of atreus who is looking for other giants(which I see can be introduction to Egyptian or Japanese or many others) and freya as ur ally, but kratos is rebuilding then boom the little area you are rebuilding is being attacked by a force(the Romans) and kratos defends his town, but once he kills a lot of them their general( a familiar face)introduces himself, knowing who kratos is and it’s ares but reincarnated as Mars and they have a badass fight like baldur or Thor but Mara retreats and kratos sees a glimpse of Zeus or Jupiter and decides to go after them, knowing they will attack his town and his people, and he goes off after them, killing the Roman gods. One of the main criticisms I saw with the new Norse games is how kratos only kills literally 2 gods, baldur and hemidall, yeah he fights 5 baldur, heimdall, freya,Thor and Odin but only kills 2 of them and this little one off game can serve as a god of war 3 power trip for the fan base, idk that’s my opinion I could be wrong lol
It was revealed that Kratos have spent over a 100 years in Midgard in the Lore and Legends book. But as for how much time passed when he travelled from Greece to Midgard remains unknown.
I have 2 theories
1 Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats physical or magical
2 Kratos is a calm and reasonable person
The first entry had to be a theory? I thought this was obvious.
I could see Greece over time being rebuilt for sure. Kratos never killed Aphrodite in 3 and he never killed any others such as Apollo, Artemis, Demeter and Hestia.
Nobody mentions how the mask is like the Mask of Loki from the comics adapted by Jim Carrey.
the way this could be called a video about Athena
here's another athena theory.
i already commented this theory on another channel.
'so when odin tried to look into the green crack with out the mask he lost his eye
i think athena took his eye and used it to create the green crows(eyes of odin) so she can keep an eye on kratos and atreaus because she can't physically be there.(and we all know that Odin's magic is not green
and remember odin was looking for knowledge and athena is all about wisdom)
and maybe kratost still has the power of the pandora box and she still wants it back(which is unlikely cause when he killed him self it was released).
and we all know that the game directors said that when kratos was talking to athena in gow 4 was an illusion because mimir didn't see her, but what if she hid her self from him because mimir is known for the smartest man alive so he wouldn't ruin any plans she had, and the fact that mimir actually knew about her says it.
so what do you think.
Nope. The Fallen God comics indicate he sailed there. The depiction in the novelization of god of war 2018 is more of a prophetic dream.
Much more talkative in the sequel
Kratos: … No
There was a painting in god of war Ascension if you press on that the massage comes
"of all the prophecies I have seen, this one haunts my dreams"
And after this painting becomes earth image and the massage appears
"WHEN THE EARTH STOPS, THE JOURNEY BEGINS…"
I always thought this was a tint for sequel in another mythology and this came true
Kratos is truly a Man of Legend, having slaughtered an entire pantheon, is working through a second one, and given the last game's reference to other lands and their respective deities and the fact that the last God of War game was originally going to take place in Egypt, he's likely to annihilate one or two more
In that sense, Kratos is also a rather tragic person, as it seems inevitable that no matter what he does, not matter how much he wishes to avert it, he's bound to end up in conflict with another pantheon, slaughter them all and destroy yet another land through bring forth yet another apocalypse
But what if it was the case that this wasn't merely the result of bad fortune or circumstance, but rather the deliberate manipulations of another. Many a fan already suspects that Kratos's second wife Faye is using him to destroy the Norse Pantheon, but what if it goes back much further, and much deeper, than that.
For starters, let's go back to the beginning and examine the event that turned Kratos from a willing servant of the Gods to their rage-driven, vengeance-seeking killer. It all starts when Ares decides that Kratos's family is proving detrimental to his potential as warrior and servant of the current God of War, so Ares decide's to take Kratos's wife and daughter, dump them in a city Kratos is ransacking so that he unwittingly slaughters them… then immediately shows up to take credit for the whole thing. ANYTHING SEEM OFF TO YOU ABOUT THAT!?!
Sure, Ares in Classical Mythology isn't known for his tactical skills, but even by his standards, this is an insanely stupid move. Basically everything about that plan just ensures that Kratos would end up despising Ares and likely start rebelling, especially when it'd be less risky, and alot simpler, to just let some enemy soldiers and have them kill Kratos's family, or better yet, disguise himself as an enemy soldier and do it himself, then show up after the fact and tell Kratos that it happened because he was "too soft" and that the same would happen to the rest of Sparta lest he get his act together
And in the 2018 game, basically everything we hear about the Aesir either comes from murals left by the Giants, or from Mimir, but if you pay close attention to Mimir's Tales, you start to notice something off about them:
– In the tale of Hrungnir the Stone Giant, Odin brings the titular Giant to Asgard to party, and when Hrungnir gets drunk, he starts jumping about and raving about how he's going to kill everyone there, then Thor walks in and kills Hrungnir. This story is used to frame Odin and Thor as cruel and nasty, but put yourself in Thor's shoes, if you walked into a room and saw a large, drunk man spastically ranting and raving about killing everyone in said room, wouldn't you try to stop it?
– The story about Mjolnir been stolen tries to pass off the one who did it, Thrym, as been "cunning" even though all he did to get it was luck out in finding Thor asleep, and just robbed him, an act that required zero cunning, then offered to give it back in exchange for Freya's hand, which given the fact that the hammer was the greatest weapon of the greatest Giant-slayer in the 9 Realms, is a move any sane man would call "retarded"
– The account of how Asgard's Walls were built tries to pass of the Gods as double-crossing backstabbers, except they upheld the bargain they made with Hrimthur, and gave him with his audience with Freya. Now yes, they did kill him afterwards, but nothing in the bet was said about him leaving alive, however, when you stop to think about the tale, certain questions pop up, if Hrimthur expected to leave alive, why request an audience with Freya to tell her the walls weakness instead if taking that info back to the Giants? and why did Hrimthur make a bet at all, instead of asking for cheap but reasonable price for his labor so as to not arose suspicion? In the original myths, it was the Gods who made the bet at Loki's behest cause the price been asked for was so outrageously high
– The tale of Groa the Giant Sorceress portray's her collecting every scrap of magical knowledge to expand her power as a good thing, but every story of Odin doing the same is portrayed in a negative light, even though she's only doing it to find her husband while Odin is trying to prevent in the end of the world
– And everyone throughout the 2018 game agrees that Ragnarok coming to pass is a bad thing, but when telling the story of Surtur the Fire Giant, he insists that the Giant devotion to making it happen is a good and noble thing
As such, these stories seem carefully crafted to make the God's look as bad as possible, while giving the Giants every benefit of the doubt, to the point of making them virtually Saints. While actual Norse Mythology, which the game insists is propaganda on Odin's part, portrays the Aesir in a more noble, but still flawed, light. Now ask yourself, which account is more likely to be true?
But let's take a look at what we do know to be true, the Jotun and Aesir have been at war for Centuries, if not Millennia, the Jotun are incredibly skilled sorcerers with the power of prophecy, which is especially true for Faye, who we know for a fact spent years making preparations for the events of the 2018 game, and it's possible to bewitch someone into believing false information without them even knowing
Now Odin is too paranoid and knowledgeable in magic to ever let himself be open to bewitching, and Thor is incredibly wary of the Giants, so there's never going to be a chance to place such a spell on them, but what of others who are more eager for peace, like say, Tyr, Mimir, Freya or even the two most skilled Dwarven Blacksmiths in all the Nine Realms
But Faye wouldn't of had much influence on Kratos's actions in Greece, and now that she's dead, on his slaughtering of future pantheons, so she can be part of the scheme, but not really the main force influencing Kratos's constant God-Butchering. So the question is, who keeps putting Kratos on this path?
Something I find interesting, is that alot of Characters seem to use Odin as a scapegoat, more than once throughout the game, the characters discuss some horrible thing they did or were planning to do, and their justification for it was "Odin makes us do it"
No matter the ruin and destruction they bring, no matter the harm they cause to innocents, they always pass it off as "Odin's Fault". Take Fimblewinter, or "The Desolation", throughout GOW Ragnarok, everyone tries to pin it on Odin. But what caused it was Buldar's Death, who was killed by Kratos, in response to the madness Buldar had caused by Freya, you might try to say that none of it would've happened if Odin hadn't sent him after them, but then what about Faye, who unlike Odin knew how things would play out, and intentionally arranged for it to happen
If you read Gna's Journal, you find out that Freya has always played the victim, and some of Mimir's tales about the Giants seem kinda, off…
– In the tale of Hrungnir the Stone Giant, Odin brings the titular Giant to Asgard to party, and when Hrungnir gets drunk, he starts jumping about and raving about how he's going to kill everyone there, then Thor walks in and kills Hrungnir. This story is used to frame Odin and Thor as cruel and nasty, but put yourself in Thor's shoes, if you walked into a room and saw a large, drunk man spastically ranting and raving about killing everyone in said room, wouldn't you try to stop it?
– The story about Mjolnir been stolen tries to pass off the one who did it, Thrym, as been "cunning" even though all he did to get it was luck out in finding Thor asleep, and just robbed him, an act that required zero cunning, then offered to give it back in exchange for Freya's hand, which given the fact that the hammer was the greatest weapon of the greatest Giant-slayer in the 9 Realms, is a move any sane man would call "retarded"
– The account of how Asgard's Walls were built tries to pass of the Gods as double-crossing backstabbers, except they upheld the bargain they made with Hrimthur, and gave him with his audience with Freya. Now yes, they did kill him afterwards, but nothing in the bet was said about him leaving alive, however, when you stop to think about the tale, certain questions pop up, if Hrimthur expected to leave alive, why request an audience with Freya to tell her the walls weakness instead if taking that info back to the Giants? and why did Hrimthur make a bet at all, instead of asking for cheap but reasonable price for his labor so as to not arose suspicion? In the original myths, it was the Gods who made the bet at Loki's behest cause the price been asked for was so outrageously high
– The tale of Groa the Giant Sorceress portray's her collecting every scrap of magical knowledge to expand her power as a good thing, but every story of Odin doing the same is portrayed in a negative light, even though she's only doing it to find her husband while Odin is trying to prevent in the end of the world
– And everyone throughout the 2018 game agrees that Ragnarok coming to pass is a bad thing, but when telling the story of Surtur the Fire Giant, Mimir insists that the Giant's devotion to making it happen is a good and noble thing
Of course, Odin has done reprehensible things, but you have to wonder, what parts of the story are we not hearing?
"Good thing you learned the runes eh brother"
I mean… I haven’t heard anybody talk about how atreus’ eyes glow when he talks to Jormungandr lol but idk maybe it’s nothin.
Nice
This isn't a theory but it's a fact NO ONE (NOT EVEN Santa Monica) remembers… But when Athena appears in The Realm of Hades, she passes through Kratos' body to grab the Blades of Chaos, and she turns them into The Blades of Exile. GoW3. No joke