Shooting Down Planes With PISTOLS: Fact or Fiction?



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41 thoughts on “Shooting Down Planes With PISTOLS: Fact or Fiction?”

  1. 07:43 – There was another option for Royal Flying Corps and Armée de l’Air craft. Foster mountings positioned a Lewis or Vickers machine gun on the upper bi-plane above the propeller blades with the trigger fed down by wire to the pilot. This was an advantage for Night Fighters in keeping the muzzle flash out of the pilot’s eye-line. The machine gun was fitted to a curved rail so it could be pulled stock first into the cockpit for in-flight reloading. That also made it possible to stably fire directly upward into a target for deft pilots. However, its not as accurate as an interrupter system, in sighting the gun on target at longer ranges. This method did persist beyond the technological evolution as the S.E.5 had both an interrupter mounted gun and a Foster mounted one, as firing through the propeller wasn’t safe with incendiary rounds (or with a Lewis gun at all). Having two guns vertically aligned was also less stress on early airframes. Naval versions of the Sopwith Camel also used this mounting in service and some versions mounted a recon camera with the Foster mount to avoid propeller interference with the pictures.

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  2. Flyboys is the worst. Now I'm with you on all your , well warranted, Criticisms. However, The Lafayette Escadrille did fly Nieuports (11 to17) almost exclusively. We didn't get Spads until the U.S. officially declared war and sent over 'Proper' American squadrons. Remember, I said Almost exclusively.

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  3. Ok, no shit. That second story with the Storch. I thought it was going to be the story of my Friends dad who brought down a Fieseler with his pistol whilst in his LN-2. However, He didn't shoot it down. Rather he brandished his Big Iron and the Germans surrendered. This was in '45 and these guys were looking to surrender to any American they could. So, they surrendered to Lt. O'Leary. His son James showed me the photo of his dad accepting the Germans surrender after they landed. As a result, We recreated this pose at an air show in Reading PA. James in place of his dad.

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  4. Ive been watching your content for a while but seing you in the Hippie Dippy explaining the american budget to clueless americans while Adam Something and Vaush backing you up was surreal.
    This video is a nice Bonus.

    I once shot a guy in Rise of flight with a pistol. He lived on the server for 9 hour a day, booming and zooming with his Fokker. I got him while sitting in an Airco DH2 and he got so mad that he ragequitted, rejoined to flame, disconnected again , came back online ,joined my team and then tried to teamkill me for the rest if the evening. Still my proudest achivement

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  5. As an American I can confirm our ability with firearms is a borderline superpower. Probably because many of us have an air rifle shoved in our hands when we're barely out of diapers. I got an unrestricted pre-ban Daisy when I wasn't quite 5. The only allowance I got as kid I had to earn by collecting bounties on pests on our acreage, my uncle's airfield, and the surrounding farms, I had to git gud if I wanted my weekend Surges and videogame rentals. Before I was 8 and after a couple years of begging and pleading my dad purchased me a Tasco scope and tapped and mounted it to the Daisy. I switched to pellets and in short order I was able to take birds on the wing through a scoped air rifle from 30 yards, which is no small feat. I also discovered I was naturally skilled with a shotgun my first time skeet shooting as a preteen where I shot 100% and after a couple years I was basically able to point shoot my Mossberg at anything at any range so long as I was familiar with the load, and I can fire it accurately at the limits of it's action, I had to slow myself down because I started routinely stovepiping it. My first time shooting Grandpa's .45 I was hitting torso sized targets from 25-100 yards without fail using the old school standard single handed shooting posture from old WW2 training films I had seen. I still everyday carry that pistol, it's by far the best shooting and most ergonomic firearm I've ever held and now after not quite 25 years of practice, it's an extension of my body.

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  6. Lafayette Escadrille used Nieuports, primarily. Nieuport 11's at the start, then some Spad Vll's, then more Nieuport 17's. Oddly enough that's one of the few accurate parts of that movie(Flyboys). Could have done without the worthless romance plot and kamikaze zeppelin shenanigans though.

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  7. Ok boys and girls, open your hymn books to the Marty Robbins chapter and sing along:

    To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day
    Hardly spoke to folks around him, didn't have too much to say
    No one dared to ask his business, no one dared to make a slip
    For the stranger there among them had a big iron on his hip
    Big iron on his hip
    It was early in the morning when he rode into the town
    He came riding from the south side slowly lookin' all around
    He's an outlaw loose and running, came the whisper from each lip
    And he's here to do some business with the big iron on his hip
    Big iron on his hip
    In this town there lived an outlaw by the name of Texas Red
    Many men had tried to take him and that many men were dead
    He was vicious and a killer though a youth of 24
    And the notches on his pistol numbered one and 19 more
    One and 19 more
    Now the stranger started talking, made it plain to folks around
    Was an Arizona ranger, wouldn't be too long in town
    He came here to take an outlaw back alive or maybe dead
    And he said it didn't matter he was after Texas Red
    After Texas Red
    Wasn't long before the story was relayed to Texas Red
    But the outlaw didn't worry men that tried before were dead
    20 men had tried to take him, 20 men had made a slip
    21 would be the ranger with the big iron on his hip
    Big iron on his hip
    The morning passed so quickly, it was time for them to meet
    It was 20 past 11 when they walked out in the street
    Folks were watching from the windows, everybody held their breath
    They knew this handsome ranger was about to meet his death
    About to meet his death
    There was 40 feet between them when they stopped to make their play
    And the swiftness of the ranger is still talked about today
    Texas Red had not cleared leather 'fore a bullet fairly ripped
    And the ranger's aim was deadly with the big iron on his hip
    Big iron on his hip
    It was over in a moment and the folks had gathered round
    There before them lay the body of the outlaw on the ground
    Oh, he might have went on living but he made one fatal slip
    When he tried to match the ranger with the big iron on his hip
    Big iron on his hip
    Big iron, big iron
    When he tried to match the ranger with the big iron on his hip
    Big iron on his hip

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  8. I know Fly Boys isn't a great movie but I still like it. Ok the reason these American pilots in the French Airforce use Nieuport 17s is because the movie starts in early 1916 the year they rolled in to production. The SPAD S.XIII appeared in early 1917. Why they don't change the aircraft halfway through the film is anyone's guess.

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