Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick | Mike Pence | EP 368



Ep. 368

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and former Vice President Mike Pence discuss his current run for the 2024 presidency, the U.S. Government’s overreach in economic matters when it should be playing referee, the indoctrination and sexualization of our youngest citizens, the realistic way forward on the Russia Ukraine front, and how we might finally stabilize a nation wrought with cultural warfare.

Mike Pence, an American politician and native Hoosier, served as the 48th vice president of the United States from 2017 to 2021. He previously served as the 50th governor of Indiana from 2013 to 2017, and a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from 2001 to 2013. Before this he practiced private law, led the Indiana Policy Review Foundation, and hosted “The Mike Pence Show,” a syndicated talk radio show that also aired as a public affairs program on TV once a week. He only recently announced his candidacy for President of the United States, and is currently on the campaign trail.

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:12) Intro
(1:11) Why run now?
(4:11) A return to normalcy, Coolidge
(6:52) The question Democrats won’t answer
(11:21) Education, who controls the curriculum?
(14:09) The ability to choose
(18:30) Competition improves quality
(22:28) Hate speech and the incitement of violence
(23:17) Pence’s stance on the Russia Ukraine war
(29:46) A good emergency
(30:21) Repel the invasion, post war boundaries
(37:05) Is NATO a threat to Russia?
(42:34) The lack of international respect for the Biden Administration
(43:57) Joe Biden’s failure with the Afghanistan withdrawal
(47:23) Those who choose to look strong rather than being strong
(50:13) When Pence last spoke to Putin, “That can’t happen again”
(53:00) One hand outstretched, one on the holster
(54:25) Serving with Donald Trump, and why Pence is running against him
(1:00:19) What a “Conservative Agenda” means for America and the world

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30 thoughts on “Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick | Mike Pence | EP 368”

  1. A lot of you don't like Pence's stance on Ukraine, but he is correct according to the best geopolitical and military analysts in the world. Regan did the same thing when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. This is just the new "Peace through strength" for 2023. And it works. Right now is not the time for experimental politicians. We have bigger fish to fry than the woke moralists. We are in an existential battle against REAL authoritarians. Like real World War 2 level bad guys.

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  2. Ukraine is US policy. What "predated" this conflict was put in place by us policy as with other countries whereby it was done in the name of "peace". Not a good answer Mr. Pence. Also ruler of the free world with the military is contradictory imho.

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  3. Surprisingly disappointing interview. Peterson didn’t ask any challenging or in depth questions and Pence stuck to uninteresting programmed answers. Could have spent 5 minutes watching Fox News and learned as much.

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  4. The one and only country, which is in need of american leadership is the US – no country else – the american exceptionalism or the strange idea that america could be the sole undispensible country in this world is …..vomitingly wrong !

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  5. Mike Pence view on Ukraine makes me nauseate.Also speaking of America as keeper of democracy ,when it is known that most conflicts in the world are initiated by America ,because of its" interests". Thank you dr Peterson for making him uncover all his snakes .When he prays ,probably he communicate with devil.

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  6. This feels like a decent effort to get into the 1972 campaign with a few prepared talking points and catchphrases to connect to the people watching any or all of the three networks on the tele-vision.

    Like many commenters noticed before, the difference between this and the RFK junior interview is night and day. This is a career politician. Everything is rehearsed, including the hand gestures. Mr. Pence might be a competent politician and administrator, but this just feels wrong. The wife calling in to check in is pure cringe by the way.

    Who is Mike Pence appealing to? Non-upset taxpaying voters that didn't really like Trump but would like to vote Republican?

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  7. USA have slowly becoming more and more radically left in the past few yrs to be quite honest, seeing more educational institutions agreeing to fu*ked up rules related to gender equality, homosexuality, transgenderism that even plagued competetive sports, even to a degree of isolating female competition. Indoctrination of the youth to concepts of gender reassignment and the woke movement. During Trumps time, America became more and more of a socialist state culminating to a riot at capitol hill. I mean is there ANY?? candidate who is in the effing middle of the political spectrum?

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  8. Jordan why did you give this guy the time for an interview ?
    This guy is lying about everything he said here..do you not know that?
    Pence has defended his role in certifying the results of the 2020 election, saying he's "proud" of what he did on Jan. 6 and declaring there's "almost no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president."

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  9. As a Brit that has only watched 30 mins of this interview before continuing, I’m half intrigued, and half disappointed so far… Mike Pence was totally a silent partner as Trump’s VP- and wisely so.
    DT was the first Pres since Reagan to not spend a lifetime in career politics before being elected and brought a fresh and brash edge to the two party debate.
    That’s why I don’t think MP can compete today- he had the chance to flip his image as former VP, but recycles ancient rhetoric. It’s not enough to be the nostalgia candidate of the 1980s. RFKJr declaring as an independent and not selling out, would be the biggest leap forward in US two-party electoral history…

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  10. The VP had the right to challenge the vote on January 6… Pence buckled.
    Trump never put himself before the Constitution…he was betrayed by many Republicans, like Pence, who represent the worst hypocrites in our current political system. The level of corruption at the top, as seen in the way the DOJ is so politicized by their CONTINUAL witch hunt against Trump while they ignore the MANY criminal acts of the Bidens shows how bad off America is right now.
    Jordan, your foolish lack of understanding of why Trump was so successful & loved (& will be re-elected)& why he was surrounded by traitors is very disappointing.

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