How Patchface's Character Foreshadows Shireen's Burning and Stannis's Future | ASOIAF Theory



Theory about Patchface. Ideas for all his jiggles, revisiting my theory about his resurrection, and a theory about his future.
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~Chapters~
00:00 Intro
00:34 Creepy and Malevolent?
04:13 How did he get resurrected?
12:06 What do Patchface’s jiggles mean?
38:32 Patch and Shireen will be burned together to “wake dragons from stone” by Stannis
45:36 Outro
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Sources: ASoIaF book series
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21 thoughts on “How Patchface's Character Foreshadows Shireen's Burning and Stannis's Future | ASOIAF Theory”

  1. “An ugly little girl and a sad fool, and maester makes three . . . now there is a tale to make men weep.” This line from the ACOK – Prologue could also mean that these three people will sacrifice their lives for Stannis, but like Cressens their sacrifice would be in vain.

    And that is sad…

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  2. 15:32 also noticed something creepy about Mel, Benerro and Moqorro: they believe that Azor Ahai will bring about a summer without end, essentially the opposite of the Long Night. Obviously the best thing for Planetos would be to have regular seasons back, so I'm not sure I can vibe with the Rhllorists on that front (obviously they're much worse than just that, but still).

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  3. Yes this is brilliant! I have also always empathized with these characters as well. The “come away” finally clicks into place correctly! What beautiful tragedy! The Cassandra reference to patch-face and the salt having ritual purification purposes! You deserve a zillion more views and likes!

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  4. Yes, all the circumstantial evidence points to the poison coming from the hairnet. But in the scene itself it seems like the poison could've came from the pie. Or to be more precise, from the cream topping the server scoops on top of the slice of pie just before handing it to Tyrion. There's more to it, but that's the general idea, plus the hairnet is a pretty convoluted way of delivering the murder weapon so that gets people looking for alternatives explations

    I'm not saying this is what I think, I was just trying to explain the basic idea & why people question it to begin with

    But great video! I love revisiting things like Patches' jingles & trying to decipher the as of yet unexplained ones : )

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  5. I think he is creepy because the evil force speaks through him, yes, the undersea gods are not the friends of air breathers, so it is okay to call them evil. Honestly Mel also creeps me out.
    We could be a water wight.
    Shireen has decided that he is funny, that his creepy and plain weird utterances are funny. So she touches the very last of his humanity. At least he can make one person laugh.

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  6. Salt water or just salt forms a magical or esoteric barrier. And salt and bread sounds Roman to me – you got salt as part of your SALARY. Hospitality (bread) with salt (value, prestige maybe)..

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  7. I can see Selyse sacrificing herself. She's a true believer. She'd die for the cause. Perhaps also she feels that she has failed Stannis by having only one living child, and an unhealthy girl child at that.

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  8. Wow, really interesting interpretations here! I've never seen anyone break down Patchface's chants to this level but I think a lot of it makes perfect sense.

    I can give some sort of clarification on the alternative explanation for the Purple Wedding, particularly the one that I think Preston Jacobs came up with:
    The idea is basically that a servant in Littlefinger's service put the strangler gem on top of Tyrion's pie slice and then covered it with cream, in which it dissolved. This is the pie that is later eaten by Joffrey.

    LF's motivation for wanting Tyrion dead is partly as revenge for all the dick moves he pulled on him during his tenure as hand, partly since Tyrion just replaced him as Master of Coin and is one of few nobles intelligent enough to figure out that LF has been cooking the book for years, and last but not least because his death would widow Sansa and make her eligable for marriage.

    That last point does make a lot of sense, since the plans he mentions to Sansa almost all involve her marrying someone else, which would be illegal and create some very complicated succession disputes.

    You could argue that that same thing would be achieved by simply killing Joffrey and blaming Tyrion so he'd get executed, however the circumstances that makes Tyrion the main suspect in the moment are so specific that I don't think Bloodraven himself could manufacture them, let alone LF.

    And following the logic of a poisoned pie or cream potentially killing more people than intended, Margaery was actually drinking from the same wine chalice as Joffrey!

    Another issue I have your assessment is that while LF and co all thinks that getting Joffrey out of the way and ruling through Tommen is a good idea, LF left the capital long before Tommen ascended the Iron Throne, so what good will it do him now?

    Granted, even if true, this theory shares the same main flaw as the official explanation provided by LF: why rest your entire regicide conspiracy on a teenager blindly following the fashion advice of a drunk fool, while entrusting her, the most guarded hostage in the Red Keep, with the murder weapon, when there were plenty of opportunities to kill Joffrey beforehand?

    It might just be that GRRM likes to keep his mysteries somewhat vague and open even when they're explained and honestly that's part of what makes the story so cool to think about! (Because I still think letting LF, the biggest liar in ASOIAF explain the mystery in such a suspicious way, was to give The Purple Wedding some ambiguity.)

    Sorry for this long, only tangentially related comment lol

    EDIT Though it's interesting how the pairing of Sansa and Dontis makes two sad girl/sad fool combos in the story.

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