It’s been five years since a Boeing 737-MAX crashed in Indonesia, killing all on board. This was the first of two crashes that led to a grounding of the MAX fleet.
7 thoughts on “5 years later: Lessons learned from Lion Air 737-Max crash”
I worked for this company for 13 years and they have not learned a thing. Likely to repeat in the future. Boeing isn't in the business of building safe aircraft. They are all about market share and trying please there shared holders.
The lesson learned is that you can make Billions of dollars sacrificing a few hundred lives and a hundred million dollars. As a Seattle native I am ASHAMED of Boeing sending out aircraft that were not ready to fly. You see there is a clause in these jet transactions that states Boeing sacrifices profits depending on how behind schedule they distribute the aircraft. So Boeing released its aircraft flawed to make more money. Alas, people were murdered because Boeing wanted to satisfy its share holders with big profits.
It is easiest to blame the pilots, Boeing missed the opportunity to find out why the plane crashed and implement a fix, but I suspect someone inside knew as soon as the FDR and CVR data were read and analyzed. What happened next we will never know why nothing was done for 4 months. Dennis Muilenburg trained as an engineer may or may not know what happened but he should have found out for himself. The Boeing MCAS team should have some idea of what the mode of failure would have been, this failure may eventually kill the The Boeing Company.
Why re-engage the stab trim cutout switches? Even on the older NG airplanes and most other airplanes, you DO NOT re-engage autopilot and trim cutout switches when you suspect a runway stabilizer trim failure. So I ask, why re-engage a system that you should've already been trained on to NOT re-engage when there's a stabilizer failure?
Very sad, and condolences to families of victims. This likely doesn't help, but I find some solace in knowing commercial airline safety has steadily improved to the point that you're almost certainly safer in the air than in an automobile. These tragic accidents shouldn't obscure the fact that Boeing, the FAA and operators are constantly improving safety. Are there mistakes and imperfections? Of course, but I find it remarkable how incredibly safe flying has become. We live in a time when (for whatever reason) many people search day and night for imperfections in our institutions, companies, and leaders and thrive on condemning versus understanding and improving. I hope that changes soon.
Lesson #1 = BOEING LIED & PEOPLE DIED !!! . . . Lesson #2 = IT WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT !!! . . . Lesson #3 = BOEING DELIBERATELY DECEIVED EVERYONE BY MAKING DANGEROUS CHANGES TO INCREASE THEIR PROFITS !!! . . . Lesson #4 = MONEY MATTERS MORE THAN SAFETY !!! . . . Lesson #5 = THE CEO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GIVEN 60 MILLION TO LEAVE FOR THE 346 PEOPLE HE KILLED !!!
The responsibility begins with Boeing. They forgot their design philosophy and made a bonehead design error. It was not subtle. They must have lost some key design engineers who would not have allowed that, along with a changed culture that let the bean counters drive the schedule. The trouble with bean counters is that they don’t count the extra beans needed after a disaster.
All things considered, it was a disgraceful episode all around in the history of US aviation. Still, I fly on Boeing aircraft today, including the MAX. I am confident that the problem has been fixed.
I worked for this company for 13 years and they have not learned a thing. Likely to repeat in the future. Boeing isn't in the business of building safe aircraft. They are all about market share and trying please there shared holders.
The lesson learned is that you can make Billions of dollars sacrificing a few hundred lives and a hundred million dollars. As a Seattle native I am ASHAMED of Boeing sending out aircraft that were not ready to fly.
You see there is a clause in these jet transactions that states Boeing sacrifices profits depending on how behind schedule they distribute the aircraft. So Boeing released its aircraft flawed to make more money.
Alas, people were murdered because Boeing wanted to satisfy its share holders with big profits.
It is easiest to blame the pilots, Boeing missed the opportunity to find out why the plane crashed and implement a fix, but I suspect someone inside knew as soon as the FDR and CVR data were read and analyzed. What happened next we will never know why nothing was done for 4 months. Dennis Muilenburg trained as an engineer may or may not know what happened but he should have found out for himself. The Boeing MCAS team should have some idea of what the mode of failure would have been, this failure may eventually kill the The Boeing Company.
Why re-engage the stab trim cutout switches? Even on the older NG airplanes and most other airplanes, you DO NOT re-engage autopilot and trim cutout switches when you suspect a runway stabilizer trim failure. So I ask, why re-engage a system that you should've already been trained on to NOT re-engage when there's a stabilizer failure?
Very sad, and condolences to families of victims. This likely doesn't help, but I find some solace in knowing commercial airline safety has steadily improved to the point that you're almost certainly safer in the air than in an automobile. These tragic accidents shouldn't obscure the fact that Boeing, the FAA and operators are constantly improving safety. Are there mistakes and imperfections? Of course, but I find it remarkable how incredibly safe flying has become. We live in a time when (for whatever reason) many people search day and night for imperfections in our institutions, companies, and leaders and thrive on condemning versus understanding and improving. I hope that changes soon.
Lesson #1 = BOEING LIED & PEOPLE DIED !!! . . . Lesson #2 = IT WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT !!! . . . Lesson #3 = BOEING DELIBERATELY DECEIVED EVERYONE BY MAKING DANGEROUS CHANGES TO INCREASE THEIR PROFITS !!! . . . Lesson #4 = MONEY MATTERS MORE THAN SAFETY !!! . . . Lesson #5 = THE CEO SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GIVEN 60 MILLION TO LEAVE FOR THE 346 PEOPLE HE KILLED !!!
The responsibility begins with Boeing. They forgot their design philosophy and made a bonehead design error. It was not subtle. They must have lost some key design engineers who would not have allowed that, along with a changed culture that let the bean counters drive the schedule. The trouble with bean counters is that they don’t count the extra beans needed after a disaster.
All things considered, it was a disgraceful episode all around in the history of US aviation. Still, I fly on Boeing aircraft today, including the MAX. I am confident that the problem has been fixed.