While both are said to stalk the dark forests of North America, the Wendigo and the Wechuge are two very similar legends with some very key differences. What is it that separates one from the other, beyond simple linguistic and geographic distances? Could the the differences tell us a story about how one people became two? Could the similarities reveal the origin of two of the largest Native American ethnic groups? Most important of all, could these cannibalistic monsters be real? Welcome back to The Lore Lodge…
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Really liking your videos. You seem very well educated and researched with a good personality for YouTube.
So I’m concerned when you mentioned you were part of the Freemasons. I have of course heard that the earlier entry level stuff is just as you have described it: charity work, sandwiches and passwords. The risks arise from the upper ranks of the organization, but I would suggest you do your own research since you are so good at that.
I’d suggest looking into the testimonies from former Freemasons as to the various nefarious beliefs espoused. Cant remember specifics off hand but can look it up if you’re interested. You seem like a nice young man and don’t want to see you swallowed up by a cult.
Whos got the legends of the medicine animals and taboos?
Imagine rolling up to a Godsmack concert and your taboo is stretched string instruments. You'd be screwed
Ok. So after having watched your entire missing 411 list, all your wendigoon colaborations, and a handful of your podcasts i have made the decision to subscribe to the Lore Lodge.
Very good episode.
Very cool video. Appreciate the research done. Keep up the great content.
Na it's a new breed that ppl turn into once getting kicked out, restricted out of society thx to the social credit
As someone who grew up in Eastern Ontario, this was really interesting. Thanks!
I would definitely be interested in more videos about native american mythology/folklore! The way you handle it seems pretty respectful and well researched
Diné are Navajo here in Arizona. The Apache were enemies with the Diné (Navajo)and language is similar.
Diné believes in the Skinwalker. I'm tired of everything being "skin walker." They used the magic to spy on the enemy this way. Some people used it for bad magic after that whole war against the American soldiers to live , Ughhh !!!
Someone help, I’m getting too “strong.”
As a Canadian, this may explain the voices calling for me from the woods.
What kind of stupid question is that. Of course there are
I'm training to hunt monsters, I'll be a Man-Eater Eating Man, or MEEM.
Are u telling me that vision quests stems from an evil stepmother trying to get rid of her husband's heir??? Yo that's some Native American Snow White type stuff, only way, way, way cooler. The story of defeating the monsters coincides with all the mega fauna dying off. Some most likely from humans trying to keep themselves fed and safe. We know that American lions and Saber toothed Tigers would've not only been a direct threat but also hunting competition. They would've been the first to go logically, then the Mammoth, it wasn't just because of their meat, fat, and bones for tools and building materials, but also because scientists think that Mammoths were more aggressive then their Asian and African counterparts, not that any are exactly civil. Despite the ones tortured into obedience.
Native American culture is so beautiful. I wish mine and others ancestors weren't so ignorant and bloodthirsty. Europe had turned them into hardened thugs by the time they came here. The Natives weren't perfect but we know they weren't as savage as the colonizers. Mainly from their culture and their desperation to survive in a new land, no matter who they had to step on. My family is Menorcan and has been in Florida since the Spanish brought them as indentured servants (nice word huh?) So they didn't go west but their were plenty of atrocities committed here to. By the Spanish, French, English, and then newly christened Americans.
We can't change history, but we can study it and apply it's lessons to keep us from becoming desperate again. Not many things more dangerous than a desperate human being. Man Wise Wise. Homo Sapien Sapien. The creatures who thinks themselves so nice they named themselves smart twice.
Spiritual transformations are incredibly cool to think about, since at what point is it just true? If a person is raised in a culture that reinforces that they will turn into an inhuman monster hungering for human flesh if they eat human flesh, then if they are forced to eat human flesh, their perception of themselves can easily be shaped by that expectation, and they become what they were told that they would, simply because they expect that that's what will happen. Physically, there may be nothing changing, but mentally and psychologically, the human brain, personal identity, perception of self… All of it can be morphed around this cultural expectation.
I’ve always assumed that either memetic mutation took place
Or it’s the same type of transformation just being in a more frozen place lends to slightly different biology
It was a shame to hear that Aidan had succumbed to madness, causing him to attack and partial devour Aidan before disappearing into the nearby wilderness. My heart goes out to Isaiah; it's hard to lose a son, especially in such a horrific way.
Might need a bit of a correction around 4:25. I believe the umbrella term for the people group you are looking for is Anishinaabe, not Ojibwe; The Ojibwe/Odawa/Potowatomi along with their relatives the Algonquin of Ontario and others are all Anishinaabek peoples (the name means something like "original people," Ojibwe is a subgrouping and the name may mean "puckered" referring to their moccasins). The Anishinaabe and many other peoples from the northeast speak Algonquin/Algic languages, though they may sound as dissimilar as French does to Italian to Spanish. So while you're correct that the Ojibwe are very numerous, you're leaving out quite a few of my relatives! anecdotally, There's a woman who was named Wendigo-kwe (wendigo-woman) from my family's tribe (we're Odawa 🙂 ), and some fancy condos on Wendigo Lane lol
Great video.
i love the fact you got so close to saying wendigoon but didnt
the fucking restraint. i woulda said it i couldnt help myself
It’s not weird it happened twice.
Languages feed into each other.
It’s strange that there aren’t more of them.
What? The sun was smaller back then, hence darker, hence dark age.
One of my favorite stories is 'The Wendigo' by Algernon Blackwood.
If people only knew what half of the shit that is out in the world you would not take such a subject lightly, though honestly the truth of reality is slowly seeping out, theirs wonderful great things, terrible nightmarish stuff and the entire nature of our reality well its still hard to wrap my head around and im still learning constantly.
– I always scream insults at the forest and try to tempt the Wendigo but he never shows 🙁
There ist a jiddisch word meschugge meaning crazy. Sounds almost like wechuge