Is there evidence for ancient power tools at the Serapeum? Are the megalithic boxes in the underground catacombs remnants of an advanced civilization!?
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0:00 Intro
3:35 Auguste Mariette’s adventure
7:43 Megalithic sarcophagi
12:57 Christopher Dunn
16:25 Precision?
22:16 Stone cutting experiments
26:06 Tube drills, Petrie’s core #7
30:00 Pounding stones
31:45 Polish, flatness, microns
37:36 Orthogonal alignments
39:11 Conclusions
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Interesting video – definitely some food for thought here. It's been several years now since I made my Serapeum videos, but I have some commentary. The discrepancies between Dunn's angular measurements and the ones shown here are curious – as he was using highly calibrated precision tools and is certainly qualified to use them. Digital protractors like those shown require calibration to use (unless you're doing carpentry) and I didn't see anything about that. Funnily enough, in order to calibrate them you need hard gages of the accuracy and type used by Dunn in his measurements – those that provided the measurements you're claiming superiority over. Also curiously, these measurements are in conflict with those obtained by other reasearchers (also using precision tools) like Ahmed Adly. I can't speak to the validity of the measurements shown in this video, but measuring outside angles of these boxes is meaningless, and only serves to back up what seems to be a pre-determined conclusion of 'inaccuracy.' Knowing the channel these measurements came from, I'm not surprised to see it – more on that later. In any case, measuring in this fashion (by anyone) is only getting results in very specific spots, in specific boxes.
That said, any effort to measure the degree of precision is a good thing, there's no such thing as 'absolute' precision (nor is it a claim I've ever made), it should always be a goal to find the specific degree of precision employed in any historical manufacturing technique. Ultimately these boxes need to be scanned with modern high definition LIDAR devices (something I continually call for), like that which Patrice Pouillard used to determine the precision of the Barabar caves in India. I tried to scan them on the last trip there, but the apple LIDAR lacks the resolution required and the boxes were just too damn shiny to get any decent results.
We know several of the boxes weren't finished. There's some with inside corners not finished or squared out, and we have a bunch of them in what seem to be various stages of manufacture – which is a mystery all on it own, how the hell were they working on these down here?? There are also a few (like the smaller granite box and the limestone one) that seem to have been created by entirely different and less precise methods, perhaps in different times. There's also plenty of evidence for renovation in the site and multiple periods of use here (the crappy writing, recycled old-kingdom slabs etc). The unfinished boxes show chisel marks, and I've not seen any saw cuts, but there is an odd signature on the bottom corner of the box with the writing. It's not a saw but I don't really know what to make of it. The polished surfaces have no tool signatures on them as far as I can tell, but some of the 'finished but not polished' surfaces (undersides of lids) do seem to have faint machining marks and lines. Also, the whole 'liquid polish' evidence (that I've found on multiple boxes in recent trips) in my videos is a mystery to me.
I don't think the discrepancies in angles means much to the manufacturing techniques used here anyway – if that's the degree of precision, then that's the degree of precision experimentalists should be trying to match. Although these numbers are clearly in dispute and we have work yet to do to define the degree of precision here, assuming the measurements shown are accurate, in my opinion it's still remarkably impressive work, and unlikely to have been repeated 25 times by hand, particularly when combined with the other evidence for advanced tools being used on the boxes. Have you looked into the box at Lahun? Personally I find the complex and compound surfaces like hedjets or ramses heads or cornice blocks (with their associated symmetry) to be far more convincing examples of precision than linear/square stuff anyway.
Regarding the surface roughness meter and flatness. Yes, it measures a small patch. So what? Doesn't change the validity of the result. Other than that, we have precision straight edges that show flatness to within their tolerances, which is very good. Then we've got examples of laser light playing over the whole surface (pretty flat), or the good old hand test (feels flat mang). Barring a proper scan of the boxes, those are the metrics we have. If you want to prove it can be done, go make a box, and test patches of it with a surface roughness meter, see if you can match the results in microns – at the same time as getting all the other aspects of the box right – like relative geometry, polishing the surface AND the dips with rocks and sand, matching inside corner radii, etc.
Shrug. People will do their research and believe what they will. Nothing about the past is definite when looking through the lens of millenia of civilizations, construction, destruction and re-use. While I'm certainly open to being convinced, given the huge list of contradictions in the mainstream story of history, along with the evidence coming from adjacent fields of science (genetics, younger dryas etc) that I know you guys are aware of, as well as the stonework examples, I do not think primitive methods can explain everything we see.
Either the dynastics did everything (very unlikely in my opinion, given the huge wealth of evidence to the contrary and the long list of contradictions) in which case we need to re-write history based on their advanced capabilities – or they didn't, someone else did, and the Dynastics inherited a whole lotta stuff (far more likely, in my opinion), and again, we need to re-write history. It's stupid that I have to say this all the time – but I am aware you can grind through stone with copper and abrasives, or with flint chisels and pounding stones. A lot of people seem to think proving that these methods can remove a bit of stone somehow equals victory – which I find kinda weird. I've never said that it doesn't work, and no doubt lots and lots of stuff was done that way, and even more once they acquired iron in later stages of civilization. It's that those methods don't fit all the evidence we have, and those outliers are usually the things I focus on in my videos.
Ok so if people made the boxes just make a video of you making one oh and make it bigger and perfect I'm waiting
I think they stored used chemicals or materials in them
There no such thing as Greek gods, it’s only one set of gods. Gods came n left so how Greek get gods after the ancient time. So these Greeks gods just came out of no where huh 2000 years later
It was the dinosaurs, and now they’re hibernating under the pyramids. Explains the scoop marks at the obelisk in the ground
At 1:20 i had to turn it off once you said this a burial site for bulls
Niceee!!! 😍💪🏼👊🏼✨🏡🧘🏼♂️ . I hope #BrienFoester stubbles onto this too… 💅🏼 @_@
23:23 #WesternAustralia ✨
I have to admit I was under the impression they all had the same perfect angles although the accuracy is still very impressive ,and I couldn't conceive how this was possible with hand tools but this is very convincing,either way its an immense achievement
Dear Earth archeologist;
Respect Impressive documentary pretty convincing IT is done by hand for the manpower there was in these 'ancient' times only i am also pretty convinced there must have bin some otherworldly connection with the gods by priests for instance as is shown on Mars where the remnants are left to show us there must have bin a 'lost civilization that was attacked by extraterrestrials to start over again here on Earth so much to discover and much is kept hidden in the Vatican ask the Gods over there to lean some credency and solutions to clear the situation we and you're in.
Sincerely, the shrewd.
Absolutely ridiculous to even consider that others, not Egyptians, could be so creative – as to polish stone!
Yes, the ancient Egyptians did all their own work!
No, other civilizations did not contribute to construction & masonry in ancient Egypt – including aliens! What sheer nonsense to believe such tales.
Good job!..but you can't explain how it got those boxes Underground and you say they were for oxes?
Olive oil burning lamps are clean enough to not leave soot marks.
All these statues in other countries museum's and other things have all been stolen from Egypt put on ships that slipped away at night .
What a rip off ..
Please. Just for once. Replicate it with the alleged tools at hand. The whole thing. If it can be done in every detail, everyone is convinced.
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Sarpam means snake in tamil the naga bull of God shiva peacock of muruga
The gap makes it more amazing… it’s a purposely cut curve not able to see from the naked eye… others have wear from years
They were made by Sarah P.M.
Nah, i think your missing something….the size & weight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxg5cgdOz-Y&t=162s
No remains of bulls have ever been found in any of the tombs.
you mentioned "copper saws"….
the moment i had to quit and dumb your channel 😀
They used water, not sand. Idk why they keep pushing the 'sand' theory, but sand wouldn't be efficient for cutting stone.
Excellent video, however don't think for a minute this is going to stop the alien technology / Younger Dryas lost civilization channels and tour offerings, as per previous comments.
Yes, since the technology of Egyptians were not advanced enough to make these boxes it shows that these boxes were many thousands of yrs older than what we were told. Egyptians took these boxes for there own use such as determent of their agent gods. Perhaps these boxes were an energy use for people's many thousands of yrs older than ancient peoples we know of. I believe that humans have roamed our earth mny times before our knowledge of.
So you answer how one might be able to accomplish precision 90° and flat work using primitive tools.. You still can’t answer why. And how do you fit 20 men in a sarcophagus for years to do this mindless work!
Your arrogance proceeds your ego.
I think the watchers did all these things that is impossible for a man to do.
This is some really great info. So glad to now be totally flummoxed, after so many years of certainty.
Really great video. I am truly impressed and thank you for making this and disseminating the truth. I have always thought the advanced tool Theory was correct when it came to the sarapeum but you guys have definitely proven your case. Very well done.
Excellent analysis. If non master craftsman can duplicate today, think about an Egyptian master craftsman could do quicker and better back then.
Polish and cutting: Maybe Nano Diamond sand left on the surface of the earth after cosmic impacts 12,000 years back.
32:16 What would satisfy EVERYONE?? Make an actual sarcophagus to the precision of ancient ones…. why haven't they?? Hmmmm??
you said the boxes were possibly made by dynastic people ….downvote….. hell to the naw brah
Hahahaha! I don’t believe that copper and stone and wood tools can do what you claim. I tried it in cement which is softer than the stone used in Kimet !
Hey great movie thank you,
Off topic do you think the great pyramid was buit to put one body in there or do you think it may have something more important to do?
The serapeum may be linked?
Preposterous to think the Egyptians built the Egypt the are famous for.
Great video, but……………i want to see them doing the box in the real size! Doing small things on granite seems pretty "easy". Once they take it out from the bed rock, transport, move, shape and place it…… i'll believe in them! I wonder how many injuries this workers use to have……Shoulders, hands and wrist must be destroyed after a day of work, can you imagine a month or so? I know it's just a theory, but i've been working on construction of buildings for 20 years now, and is pretty hard to believe on this theories………..
But nicce work man, i really enjoy your videos!
So how long it is estimated to finish one box? Also do you have an explanation on how they navigated 70 ton box in those tight corridors?
the only problem is they are not using these methods with these polygonal blocks we are finding everywhere, and then smoothing out 8 inches of stone down to get a smooth surface in other areas. If you think this is done by hand you are honestly just an idiot. Same with trying to explain how they carved the aswan stones from bedrock. If you think those scoop marks were made by chisel, you are simply an idiot. The time for arguing it being manufactured by hand has long since passed. One trip to the temple of kailasa, and your entire story crumbles.
The smooth surfaces between the lid and box could make a nearly frictionless oil bearing. The lid could be drawn back and forth and a cutter on the lid could be machining some stone. The very heavy parts would not allow it to chatter. Perhaps guided by the angled bevels it would maintain a straight level cut. Supposedly the thing slopes a little in one direction. The lid runs downhill slightly giving help in one direction. A shaper is the modern equivalent.
wow nice video
So you’re telling me Ben has been lying to me.
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The issue has always been population numbers, it is estimated that 5000 years ago the world population was somewhere between 14 to 100 million people.
The questions that need to be asked and answered are how large a population is needed to produce a labour force that could build a structure in a mans life time in order to bury him or her in said structure then multiply this over thousands of years as there are pyramids and equally massive structures all over the world ?
How many people would be needed to grow all the food and process it, how many to quarry and transport the stone, how many needed to fight in the armies of the time and all this must be measured in the life expectancy of this labour force taking into account that the more the skill needed the longer the apprenticeship.
There is something missing from the records that is not revealed to us.