Hey Guardians! Today we summarize the events of the Lightfall Campaign in Destiny 2! Let’s discuss the Witness, Neomuna’s Hidden secrets, The Veil and the path to the Final Shape!
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Today we recap the events of Lightfall! There are some disappointing moments story wise, but let’s summarize the entire main story. Enjoy
I always thought of the witness being us (Our guardian). That in a alternate timeline the traveler managed to turn us (the witness) to the light and we fought the darkness as a champion for the light. After a victorious battle we decided to go back in every timelines (Similar to what the Exo Stranger did) were it was our destiny to be the light that guides humanity but now I don't think that's the case. I know it's a bats**t insane theory but I think our ghost is the witness and we're the traveler in human form. If you go back to the final boss battle in Beyond Light when we fought Eramis, our ghost was knocked out and she had the artifact that allowed us to use stasis yet when we looked within ourselves we were able to do (directly quoting her) the impossible. I think the grimoire card pertaining to us being unbound gave us a clue to what the final shape is supposed to be. Our final shape will be neither light or dark but something that's more powerful than both. It's something that we get to determine ourselves (similar to what we can do with strand, if you fundamentally break down what strand is then you'll see it's no different than what the witness does. Just like Oryx, we learned the ability to take but in a different way). Continuing the theory, We fought the final big boss of the story and won but at a heavy loss. To stop that possible future from happening, we went back in time with our ghost but was somehow separated in every timeline (I thought of that when Osiris saw us in an alternate timeline without our ghost and wielding saints shotgun). Which is why when our ghost finally finds us it says that it's been looking for us for a long time. I think the reason why our ghost just doesn't flat out tell us our past (Knowing exactly who we really are) is to prevent any mistakes that may have caused the casualties leading up to our original victory. Similar to the Exo Strangers story last season with her floating companion. Instead of pushing us like it's doing now, it's giving us the freedom to make our own choices. I know it's a crazy theory but the vex and the witness are not working together nor are they on the same side. Both parties have different agendas and motives at play. The Curse of Osiris DLC proved that in the possible future Osiris saw. Even the Exo Stranger says the true threat is the vex back in D1.
This felt more like season content narratively and was so disapointing and head scratching at the same time . Nothing was explained about the veil except its the river styx . So why was the witness trying to get into the afterlife?
The traveler really got the Witnes trapped in Dr strangers mirror dimension
I think i missed the Explained part in this vod?
If the witness talking through our ghost doesn’t tell y’all that the traveler and the witness are the fragments of the final shape. I’m guessing just like with religion the gardener and the winnower were one being, got bored, decided to split itself in two (Adam and eve) and played a game of creation and destruction. The darker half of the god (the winnower; the witness) decided the traveler wasn’t playing fair anymore and attacked. In the books it said the winnower crested the first bladed in existence and struck the gardener. I’m guessing the traveler has the witness imprisoned somewhere where only she can unlock and free him. I’m guessing that’s why he speaks through broken glass. Also, in that finale cutscene with the witness, he looking at a wall of darkness, like a veil, splits it and reveals the solar system. Like he’s on the outside looking in. Like Osiris said the traveler creates through terraforming therefor it’s power exists in the physical while the witness interacts through influence; nightmares and possession. Just my theory, plz comment !
Just to put things into perspective, the scene with Callus saying he's "glorious" to the Witness who rolls his eyes and turns away. Kinda feel like Callus is Bungie and the players are the Witness…. yeah we waited a year for this. "Waiter, check please."
i love how the cape glitches for me too 30:00 onward
Honestly, this sucks.
Excuse me wtf?
Soooo no one's gonna talk about the darkness fluid running thru giant pipes like Clovis Brays facilities running towards the veil containment building???
I think the witness is just a lost child in my opinion lol
This was a very odd and rushed narrative to experience, and although it can be forgiven for a few hiccups here and there, it certainly should have at least lived up to its name. "Lightfall" implies the Light falls, and yet I do not feel the impact of anything that happened. We're walking around after essentially losing a war like nothing happened, powers intact, just as strong as we've always been, environments widely unchanged, and the Witness went off somewhere to go Witness things, Witnessingly.
5/10 for me personally, only because they finally killed off Calus. I liked him as a character, but they stretched the ranch WAAAAAAY too thin with him, and it was time he had his story arc concluded. Would have been higher if they made his boss fight interesting, maybe having Caiatl get involved, instead of just a slight variant of enemy types we've fought 10,000 times.
It was just weak storytelling. For instance, getting the new subclass with literally zero buildup or explanation felt cheap, cheesy, and honestly pretty cringey, and that's the LEAST of my issues with the pacing.
I feel like ever since they lost the ability to use the original Destiny 1 story, where the Traveler was supposed to end up being evil at the end, they've completely lost all sense of direction, or motivation to even make a meaningful story. They keep making all these weird narrative decisions that don't make a lick of sense when you start to really break everything down, as they rush to please corporate overlords overseeing Bungie, who probably don't even know who Cayde-6 is. Was. (Will be?)
Welp. See everyone when they release the official Light vs. Dark saga ending, which will probably end up being yet another fart in the wind after literally over 8 years of waiting for Destiny's story to conclude while corporate dinguses squeeze the game for all the money they can get out of it with their overpriced, underwhelming, dumbass Season Pass structure.
I bet not even Bungie knows what The Veil is, because I just finished the campaign and I can guarantee that nobody that finished the campaign knows what the F is actually the Veil. Right know my only guess is that it's "some paracausal sh*t" and thats pretty much it. Half the campaign is just us messing around with Strand. It feels so weird that even post-campaign everyone keeps talking about "The Veil this and the Veil that" and I'm like "ok but what's the Veil please explain?" and why Zavala and Ikora keep telling us that the Traveler is gone? Clearly the end cinematic didn't show that and you can even still see the Traveler with the Triangular-shaped portal on it on the destination map. What happened with the narrative team? Again they did such a good job with the WQ campaign and then Lightfall happens. I'm so confused bro.
Great video. Too bad lightfall was…bad. Bad writing, voice acting, bad nerfs to various systems like mods…
The campaign felt so short, and the story as a whole felt rushed. I get the cliffhanger but the ending as a whole was mediocre
Few things
1. I believe bungie might continue the story via each season and by the end of the expansion we will know where we are going. They did say they were gonna change how the story goes.
2. Did you notice how the Witness did not once physically interact with anything.
3. I agree partially with you views but still thinking to give it a few weeks and see how things go.
I knew it nezarec lives
What if we made the first collapse what if we made the ghosts and the traveler and that’s why the ghost feels this is so familiar
6:16 gets me every time I see it. Osiris really hopped out the pod with his fist up ready to throw hands with people taller than Caiatl.
But seriously
What is the final sha……..
What is the veil? 🤔
Hold on let me get into the mood of Destiny's subpar writing… in the new DLC The Witness will be killed off singlehandedly by this character called Chief the Master, using a Device called The Plot & a new power called The MacGuffin. 🤣
I still won’t forget how Osiris says No in a tone which he was suppose to be the wisest guardian of what I’ve heard
Honestly I don't mind the mystery with The Veil, the ghost compared it to The Traveler, and it's not like we know like anything about that guy.
I really enjoyed seeing our guardian take charge before the strand montage
Always going to love Osiris’ reaction to the drop pod 😂
This expansion was doo doo, literally just didn’t explain or conclude anything, it might as well have been a seasonal story.
Wow rewatching this made me realize how good this story is like the twists are so subtle I understand how the average person wouldn’t get it. Basically everything has been the witnesses plan Calus is just a tool so we would create the link with our ghost. And even rapustins death was apart of the plan. The witness never wanted to destroy the traveler it was all a test. I hope they explain how deep it goes and how savathun relates. Bungie rly out here tryna make a aizen ass villain
When 'The Witness' showed off it's power over the ghost, when we saw it and Calus conversing about their plans; really should have taken it at face value about cluing us in that our Ghost was made into a contingency Trojan Horse.
how many of yall wanna bet that the raid is inside that portal.
Am I tripping, or was the Veil in Savathun's throne world?
I don’t understand what the veil is. I don’t understand why we only met two cloudstriders. I don’t understand what the cloudstriders are and why they even exist considering neomuna has been hidden from all conflicts until now. I don’t understand the citizens of neomuna because I get that they are uploaded to the thingy but do they no longer have human bodies and if they don’t then why is there an entire city if there is no one to live in it.
What if Nezarec is in the traveller as a prisoner
I thought this one was okay witch queen was better
So is the traveer dead?
HERE ME OUT imagine it. the witness ghost is the traveler. thus the witness and its ghost had a falling out and the traveler left without its spokes. then made little kids to have other races protect it with the use of its dead people. the witness comes to reverse what the traveler did or stop it from taking another race of people. imagine we are the pawns in a chess game between these two. hahahahahhaha
I…um….Humm. I enjoyed it. The campaign was fun. It was terribly short though. I also felt like Bungie did a terrible job of explaining things. We should have learned what the veil is. How this ties together. I want to know more about Neomuna. Maybe its their play to keep people coming back? IDK. I am mixed about this. Hopefully the seasons hash it out a bit more.
Ok I have to get this out. The Witness escaped the game. It was tired of playing the "Flower Game" that the Light and Darkness was doing for every universe they created. What the Witness meant in the final cutscene when it was talking to the traveler was that it in every universe died and suffered. The Witness "freed" itself and the Travaler from the infinite cycle by going to another universe where the light and darkness don't exist. As bungie said. The end of the light and darkness saga
1:58 – Whoever made this cutscene has no idea how space works. You wouldn't be pushed back by "wind" as the the ship accelerates to FTL, because you're accelerating with it. Instead, everything around the ship would appear to move. You wouldn't need to strain to "climb" that ladder to the hatch; you could literally just let go of the ladder and would float there until the ship made some kind of change in velocity, or you would "fall" onto the hull if there is artificial gravity.
I thought this was going to be more epic! Having just joined Destiny in Season of the Seraph I was so hyped for Lightfall. I felt The Witness was just chilling for most of this. Like it’s power level is so high we should have seen more. I really wanted an infinity war feel. Destruction left right and centre but instead we got a campaign about strand
Should have destroyed it this is Anna's fault I have not played the campaign yet I probably don't know what I'm talkin about ha
Very well done ! Thank You Sir.