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Sonic fans not gonna like this one
new stream i will watch it later if i have free time
How would you scale Wang Ling from Daily Life of the Immortal King? He is pretty dang powerful as in his heavy suppressed state he is capable of going toe to toe with a reality invading ruling entity demon king without trouble and when his true power is unleashed he annihilates an entire dimension by accident and warps the universe itself. Latest so far in the light novels I hear he is capable of expanding the reach of his power over 10,000 dimensions and the timelines within said dimensions and he defeated his verse's version of in name only outer gods with a small fraction of his true power. Atleast that is what I have heard. Does it seems like some potential 7th dimensional kind of scaling?
Who would win in a tree way beyond omega level fight crisis powered Superman , cosmic king Thor or goku universe tree power from super dragon ball heroes?
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Cartoon logic and Favoritism killed Trunks.
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Another amazing stream like usual your subs and views has gone crazy for the past few weeks. Though do you agree with me on my scaling on your verse eternal kala? Where you trying to imply that each level of the multiverse grants higher temporal dimensionality so level 1 has 1 temporal dimension level 2 has 2 temproral dimensions and level 7 has 7 temporal dimensions i just want some confirmation so im not doing headcanon scaling.
Ultraguy is no longer allowed within 500ft of a Dragon Ball Death Battle
Just a thought where would you scale Jump Force Goku?
If we were to base it on the number of dimensions, the anime "Kado: The Right Answer " surpasses most fictions, since the beings in this anime can create universes of 37 dimensions. I only think it loses out to the visual novel I/O which is said to have infinite dimensions. what dimension would jumpforce be in, in your opinion? Since it merges the real world with several universes of anime and manga. Wouldn't this be a closer representation of the omniverse?
Na wrong get over it dbz fanboy
So Living Tribunal Slaps SDBH
Did you read my comment about Wang Ling here? It didn't seem like you acknowledged it.
Would you scale the demon king in the Daily Life of the Immortal King which Wang Ling fights a universal tier being?
Atari why kefla says in the anime That She could destroy only one universe White One blast , because in this video you have demonstrated That Goku could do quadrilionUniversal punches.
What was the realm in fighters Z that had no dimensions? Iโve never heard of that.
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Hey Atari don't you find it strange that character stats and profiles scale many world interpretation theory and a type 3 universe as infinite dimensional…..you know the same principles that db follows but people would still lowball it๐
Thank you because i know the uinverse was a lot bigger then 9 times. its 4D
All that crap aside, the battle was amazing
1:49:46 while you do kinda have a point, it's still energy. Imagine if someone said: "Goku doesn't have chakra, so he can't break out of a genjutsu."
This is technically a no limits fallacy and a logical fallacy at this point, also despite all the levels of ki being different effects we still see it more or less acting the same at times. For the exception of God ki and destruction ki, even tho God ki blast have been seen to be reflected before.
While chaos energy is hard to describe, it's important to note how it shaped the way of life in the sonic multiverse, and the fact that it's made up from the chaos force. Also enerjack is usually on par or higher with another powerful bad guy who destroys universes with just his bare hands. He usually gets overpowered by a relic that takes his powers away. And Granted we see his power isn't really a match for super sonic, but super sonic but is just straight up involnerable.
If An Android from DBZ used it's ability to absorb energy, it's likely that android would be able to absorb it. Because it's still energy.
All I'm saying is that it would be weird if a dragon ball character that was consistently able to slap away moon busting lasers would get a hold blasted through them by a Lazer beam that's as powerful as a bullet just because it's a "different energy".
Now hakai (a move that uses destruction ki) being able to erase an entire existence can easily fall under no limit fallacies if we're not careful, if beerus used the hakai on the one above all, would that kill him even tho the one above all is omnipotent?
What about yogsoft the blind idiot God, his awakening will destroy everything that ever exists or ever will be. Would the Hakai work on something that's more real than reality itself? Now granted I know the talk is about whether silver can even manipulate this energy, but by this logic we can say Sasuke can beat Vegeta because he can use genjutsu, and since Vegeta can only use ki not chakra Vegeta can't break out of the illusion.
And also, Chronos control was said to be an alternate form of chaos control. So I don't think it'd be too out of this world for silver to learn about superforms and how to use it. I'll admit, silver never used it in the Archie comics itself. But like what you said, just because we haven't seen it happen doesn't mean it can't happen (however you could just mean he wouldn't be as skilled in it, and by that logic I can see where you're coming from). Also the fact that it still holds some canonicity still suggests that these events could allow characters like silver to obtain such a form.
And besides, if we were to use only base form silver it would be too ez for trunks. Especially if we go with the energy idea you said. Keep in mind, enerjack had his power stolen by a being who could already destroy a universe with his bare hands. Even if this dude needs his powers for different reasons, still must mean he's somewhat universal to universal+. And silver has been dragged by characters like base form sonic easily, but then later catches an enraged base form sonic before he could hit him with a spin dash.
Also to be fair for silver, we do get to see him put super scourge to a complete halt. Only for scourge to then effortlessly break out of this do to superforms being involnerable. This feat was impressive enough for scourge to mention it to. also in a vs debate that explains silver's feats said that his lifting strength was "incalculable".
Also in the comic where silver starts to redirect enerjack's energy it's very much clear silver doesn't possess the same raw energy as enerjack.
It's important to know how silver's powers work, he isn't using power equal to the energy. He's controlling where it will go, kinda like how a waterbender manipulates water. slightly different sense water benders use certain movements and it's water not energy, but we don't associate kitara's physical strength being building level based on her bending alone.
I know different energy can have different effects that can poison a character that can absorb it, but it's not like silver is absorbing energy.
(If there's anything you want to counter go ahead, I already made this comment with a lot of my own brain power I had left tho so don't be surprised if I don't comment back in an hour or something soon as you say something, sorry.)
weird how they used speed scaling from DBS instead of DBH