This week on Slightly Something Else, Yahtzee and Marty discuss The Game Awards ‘Game of the Year’ nominations.
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Actually quite shocked The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe didn't get any nominations here. Felt like one of the biggest indie games of the year.
If you classify SIFU as being in the same genre as Street Fighter, then your system of dividing games into genres isn't very useful.
Stop taking genre names literally.
Yasunori Mitsuda is a great composer going all the way back to Crono Trigger. I greatly preferred Xenoblade 2's soundtrack to X3's, but "The Weight of Life", "You Will Know Our Names", and all the variations of the offseer music in X3 were really good.
Wait… Overwatch got game of the year?who are the morons responsible for that?!
No love for Card Shark in indie 🙁
Elden Ring for Narrative is a little goofy. I think the story / lore overall is incredible, but I wouldn't really argue that it has a great narrative from a video game perspective.
Horizon zero dawn is the most mediocre game of the year. How can a game like that get so many nominations?
Stray should win all awards and then all cats should be given a treat.
Love you guys! Your personality’s clash so perfectly and you bring much joy to my life. It’s hard to get my video game discussion fix when many of my friends no longer are as die hard as me. I’m consistently impressed by Marty’s ability to bring an encyclopedia of games from sheer recollection
I've beem trying to get my hands on a physical switch copy of triangle strategy for a while. Loved the first one and this one looks like it's the same but better.
Also, why on earth would somebody want to release a game on rememberance day? Do they want practically nobody buying it day 1?
lol @ nick salty in chat about shitter on twitter being nominated. Don't worry, I'll vote for you guys on Golden Joysticks if possible
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Nice burn Marty. Came out of nowhere from our usual mr. nice guy
0:08 – First Marty "Uhhhh" of the episode.
Does Bannerlord count as an indie?
Whenever Yahtzee says "Game of the Year" all I can hear is the big argument he had with Gabe in the "Let's Drown Out" series….. man I miss those two
Alright guys what game would get your (price of game) feels like stealing award?
As in you get a lot more than you pay for.
What about an Escapist Game Awards? Be good to get you all together and vote on your games in each category.
GOW:R shouldn’t count it the awards is going to be announced in December. Either wait until 2023 or have a much stricter cut off.
I implore Yahtzee to sink some more time into ER. Remember the wall you had in DS, if you haven’t beaten Rennala the game hasn’t really opened up. Get to Morgott that’s about the middle of the game.
Sooooo, Fighting games… First of all they are ‘Versus only’ games, mostly 2D but occasionally 3D, but always starting with one player on the left and an opposing player on the right. And although a lot of games from the genre are themed around Martial Arts, it’s not really a ‘bare-fists’ conversation as there are hundreds of unique projectiles such as energy/ki blasts and various weapons (swords, guns, bombs) used by characters in Fighting games.
For further clarification, Fighting games are competitive 2 player games (this can be vs another person or CPU) where both players are expected to use strategy and skilful execution to defeat their opponent.
Oh, and as much as I enjoyed Sifu, it definitely doesn’t qualify as a Fighting game (not that The Game Awards give a hoot, I’m surprised they even bother including it as a category). Apologies if this comes off as condescending in writing as I think it does btw – just your average Fighting game enthusiast here!
If anyone’s interested in finding out more about Fighting games here are some sub-genres and notable games that help to understand the broader concept:
Footsies (Street Fighter, Tekken) – very neutral and mind-game based, opponents will try to bait and punish each others mistakes, usually fishing for high damage combos.
Tag fighters (Marvel vs Capcom, Dragon Ball FighterZ). – where there are multiple characters on each opponent’s team that can be used to assist or swap place with the currently active character. Tag fighters are usually very fast paced with a lot of noise on screen and prioritise impossibly long high-execution combos.
Anime fighters (Guilty Gear, Blazblue) – Fighting games designed with similar aesthetics and themes to Japanese anime, this is usually confined to 2D Street Fighter copies with really over the top moves and character animations, as well as a greater emphasis on aerial movement and long combos.
There also many 3D anime-themed fighting games but these are mostly referred to as ‘Arena fighters’ (Jump Force, Kill la Kill IF).
Platform fighters (Super Smash Bros, MultiVersus) – Same concept as the others but with multiple levels to move around the stage and instead of depleting the opponent’s health bar the objective is knock them out of the arena
I'm torn on ER for narrative. I guess it depends on whether you consider that category an award for "story" or "storytelling."
I'm more on the side that reliance on item descriptions fails the "Show, don't tell," rule, and that the lore, while fascinating in itself, fails to create emotional investment for that reason. Even the game's subreddit mostly agreed that a major character death in the game falls flat because they're underwritten.
The sidequests that employ more traditional storytelling with actual dialogue and plot twists are very good, but I just don't see what is immersive about stopping the game to read notes. The story and the gameplay feel like totally separate experiences, one that is absorbed in-game, and the other on Youtube.
Neon White has the best soundtrack this year. Absolutely bangs.
Roller Drome shoulda gotten nominated for something… if there was a Most Fun category
44:40 Is Marty's point here valid? I thought it was already widely understood that most mainstream critics are part of a system that pushes graphics above all else. His argument seems a bit naive.
I love zero punctuation but is yahtzee the most cantankerous jaded old git ever….. Yes
mcbiggitty is the best robin to yahtzees batman
Sifu is a fighting game. Brawlers are just a sub-category of the fighting genre. A fighting game does NOT have to be multiplayer.
In the same way shooters can be third person and first person, fighting games can be fighters (1v1, Street Fighter), brawlers (1vN, Sifu), and melee (NvN, Smash). Ultimately, their primary interaction and mechanics are built around fighting opponents with similar movesets to what you can use, usually with a mix of melee combat, blocking, parrying, and combos.
I tune in and find out that Yahtzee has an ADORABLE DOGGO?! Oh my