Descartes(1894) Class: I Cruiser Therefore I Am? (19th Century Cruisers Series 2 Part 8)



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19 thoughts on “Descartes(1894) Class: I Cruiser Therefore I Am? (19th Century Cruisers Series 2 Part 8)”

  1. The United States Navy was an early adopter of a doctrine of long-range battles for the main line of battleships, while other navies hung on to doctrines of short-range engagements. Congrats on reaching 9,000 subscribers.

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  2. A would vote for the periodic comparison of doctrines and what the parties involved knew about the others. "Fleet in being" combined with "Klein Krieg" worked nice – until IMO around late 1917 Italy finally wrestled air superiority from the Central Powers.
    WWI Adriatic (and to a lesser extent, Mediterraen) of course.
    Oh, geographic and political neccessities of doctrines is also a nice point of view.

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  3. Some of the wife's friends acquired an Australian cattle dog, let me put it this way since they're nice people, if aliens contacted that household they'd definitely be wanting to talk to that cattle dog.

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  4. A suggestion for how to order things in regards to this year being the year of the cruiser and next year being design & tech perhaps the next after that rather than frigates it could be destroyers then frigates then sloops then battleships then last but not least year of the carrier. However unlike wargaming's botched & outright broken redesign in world of warships your year of the carrier will actually function and arrive in a tested and fair state, balanced as all things should be 😉

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  5. Naming ships after philosophers and mathematicians, I guess that's what happens when in the last set of major wars you fought your navy was the RN's punching bag/involuntary reserve fleet

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  6. I would argue a 42,000 ton limit and the 10:10:7 limit would have been seen as disadvantageous to the Americans as the Japanese capital ships under construction are treaty compliant whereas the American ones are not plus once the Earthquake wrecks Amagi, the Japanese could built the Kii class to replace the wrecked Amagi and the carrier converted Akagi and Kaga

    The British on the other hand can decide how many 13.5" armed they drop but I could see Tiger being dropped last as the British like having 4 battlecruiser in the squadron

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  7. On Fisher: Certainly wasn't the one who cooked up the all big gun design either. If anyone has that honour it's Cuniberti, but I know of at least one (paper) design for a all big gun armed BB cooked up by a Russian naval officer in Port Arthur..

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  8. A theory / doctrine for modern navies: the Captain Wayne Hughes salvo model of missile combat and the consequent "Streetfighter" doctrine / design.
    His book "Fleet Tactics" develops the salvo model of missile combat, which also turns out to work well for aircraft carrier battles in WW2, as opposed to the Lanchester model for gunnery combat between ships of the line. (As Hughes himself is well aware "all models are wrong, some are useful.") He used this as the basis for the proposed "Streetfighter" warships for the US Navy, which did not happen. The Soviet navy, and possibly other European navies, explicitly or implicitly had already adopted similar a doctrine.

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  9. I think the USN SSBNs are part of a first strike nuclear doctrine.
    Was the USN WW2 island hopping a doctrine? (not sure)
    The USN carrier battle groups could be a doctrine.
    Various applications of anti-submarine warfare are doctrines. I'm not sure what the names are but there seem to be different approaches.

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