The ultimate cosmic confusion has set in for these two Graveyard Grandpas™ as they watch the newest “Star Trek” “Movie” Star Trek: Section 31. A flop years in the making costing Paramount Plus hundreds of millions of dollars putting them nearly 900 billion dollars in debt. And also costing them the good will of zillions of fans (except for really really dumb ones) all for one man, Alex Trebek. So when Star Trek Discovery was first made. Michelle Yeoh plays a character called Phillip George. She was Bo Burnham’s Captain on the USS Shengie. Burnham screwed up. Georgie Plagu died. Then in the mirror verse, Shelly Burnham discovered Phillp’s Georgous has a clone called Evil lady Empress. The leader of the evil Terran Umpire. That evil character would stick around and play games with yum yum girl, punching baddies and saying cool lines like, “wanna go make that man scream?” then I’m not sure what happened to her character? I think she few into Kurtzman’s space hole and went to the future. At some point she must have traveled back in time, but not all the way back because she owns a space station shaped like a birth control pill dispenser and is friends with Rachel Garrett from Yesterday’s Enterprise. Like, she was her age like maybe 68 years after the Events in Discovery? I know Michelle Yeoh looks youthful, but c’mon! Not 147 years old! Either way, Alex Kurtzmop thought this character was so well like she gets her own show. He plan for it. Then the China virus plague happened and everyone in California had to hide in their homes and wear masks. No filming! Says someone! Then when that cleared up Yeoh wins an Oscar and can no longer be paid peanuts for playing space psychopath. Tell me about it! Show me the money! Put that money everywhere everything is all at once! She told Kurtzmop where he could stick his hot dog fingers. So because of contracts and cruelty Kurtzmop decided to make Yeoh play space witch one more time for Star Trek. What a disaster. Thank god this is just a “movie” and not 10 episodes of this trash. Saved me some time. What a gas! Flat unfunny characters. Lame plot. Meh effects. I’ve soiled diapers that look more stylish and cool than this crap. This makes Borderlands look like Rebel Moon. Now, these two Graveyard Grandpas™ are a little behind on their Trek cannon. Who is where and why and why? Does it matter to watch this? Not really. Is Phillip Georgo the main character that you’re supposed to sympathize with? I think so? Not sure ? I think you’re just supposed to think that this wacky group of unlikely heroes are cool for saving the universe from a super bomb. Why do I care about the universe at all? Seems kind of miserable, mean, dark, cruel, evil, cold, unfunny and has lousy visual FX.
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24:35 – Wait. Wait. Hold on. What the fuck is this floorshow doing in a 'Star Trek' movie, This is a fever dream, right?
Strange New Worlds, and Lower Decks, are the good ones.
Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks were both great, and also probably the two new Trek shows with the least amount of Kurtzman input. And both are episodic storytelling!
Mike and Rich have been deeply wronged by Alex Kurtzman so many times that at this point I think they can legally sue him for emotional abuse.
26:58 from what i read in the Memory Alpha entry (which only deals with canon), this show is early 24th century, so post Undiscovered Country with ships going around like the Constellation Class as well as Excelsiors, Constitution II like the Enterprise and Miranda Class. People are wearing the uniforms like Wrath of Khan at this point, and Picard is probably a child at this point.
If this movie was shitcanned and never saw the light of day i would viciously disagree with you guys. However the idiots at Skydance took a chance and released it and now i agree with you guys, STAR TREK IS DEAD…You're absolutely right, where is the audience for this franchise going forward? Dinosaurs like me can drag our 'physical copies' of TOS, TNG, DS9 STV and Enterprise out and party like its 2005 again everyday. We have written off this franchise at this point. The younger generations who think 'Aliens' is overrated because it's boring and there's too much talking in it are all that's left. Skydance took a dark knight sized pile of money, stacked it up and set it on fire. I don't know their catalog but some other youtuber was pointing out they don't really have any else. Without Star Trek they've got nothing. If they are smart they will sell out to that spooky hedge fund with their dark pool of money and be done with it.😢
It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible. It was just ok.
Discovery was garbage..
Lower Decks will be greatly missed personally…
But Strange New Worlds is genuinely good!
It reminds me of The Original Series
Still need someone to continue the TNG vibe though
thanks for talking about star trek again guys
"There's no 'yum-yum'" is the best thing about this?
Section 31 was bantha poodoo. I think the only folks who enjoyed it were the ones on set maybe lol—-I wish I didn’t watch it , the only reason I did because Michelle Yo was in it.
25:50 devastating low-key omg, rich
It's a crime against humanity that Paramount let Alex get away with tossing Terry away and not continue Star Trek Legacy because Alex was Jealous and couldn't let someone do something that would make him look bad
Mike is correct, for everyone from the 20th century the Clock Is Ticking. Time will bring new generations that hold no interest in ancient entertainment. Remember, the clock is always ticking and it ticks loudest for Alex Kurtzman.
There is a certain freedom that comes from accepting that a beloved franchise from your childhood is dead and NEVER coming back in true form. First Star Wars, now Star Trek. So that just means I can spend the rest of my natural life enjoying the stuff that made me love these franchises in the first place and I never need to bother with getting my hopes up that any new media will be worth my time.
Rich Evans laugh = pure you-tube gold
I haven't seen much trek beyond first contact?, grew up with tng,ds9 and voyager, if this section 31 had no connection to star trek and was called something else completely not trek related would it have survived as a standalone space adventure/comedy?
I just watched "The Villain" for the 1st time since I was a kid. If I may suggest, please review this live action Looney Tune goofy movie lol. Alot of material to work with I promise.
8:12 Are we seeing this set? And this cost how much? Could you imagine having to choke back vomit watching that taping? "Oh it'll look great on the shaky cam, just wait."
Mike and Rich are so beaten down that they didn't mention the film ends on a triumphant, upbeat note as our main characters consign untold billions of innocents to the death with the superweapon lmaoo
AI getting bot reviews and bot views. They've successfully removed the human element. Dystopia wasn't meant for us.
Seeing that plate break is like watching the final separation from an old friend. Thanks for the memories Star Trek.