My prediction (understand that this is not what I want to happen. It's just what I think will happen):
The war is going to heat up over the next 2 months because the outgoing US administration wants to make it harder for Trump to be seen as a peaceful world leader.
Then the transfer of power will happen in January, and Trump will tell Putin that his war is over before the end of February. Russia will keep Crimea and probably some of the Donbass. Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO, but they will continue to receive arms from the US and the UK. Ukraine will accept the deal because, ultimately, they have no choice. The death toll is already way above generational replacement levels for Ukraine. Russia can soak that kind of population loss. Ukraine can't. Zelenskyy won't be able to justify suspending elections anymore and will be soundly defeated as soon as Ukrainians are allowed to vote again. Then Ukraine will be economically crippled for decades while they try to repay the west for the hundreds of billions they borrowed under his reign. The country will be forced to sell off its natural resources to the west for pennies on the dollar to try and mitigate the loss.
Russia wins the propaganda war and gets Crimea, free and clear.
The west wins the resource war and strips Ukraine of its mineral value.
Who gives a shit about Ukraine, they want it to Nato doesnt put shit in their to spy on them. Its pretty obvious. If Ukraine never joined Nato the war wouldve never happened
Maybe you both could discuss how Ukraine was the epicenter for child trafficking in the 90's. And Joe/Hunter Biden's ties with Ukraine?! Ukraine is just as corrupt as Russia. STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY AND FIGHT YOUR OWN WAR
Lmfao yes Ukraine we should send you are taxpayer money, then when the Russians threaten ww3 we should risk the lives of our citizens and those of the world……for what exactly?? Where is the benefit for the American people
Klitschko (aka Dr. Steelhammer) needs to be on Rogan!!! Despite their opposing views on the war, I'm sure they have a lot in common and to talk about because Vitali and his brother Wladimir Klitschko are one of the greatest boxers of all time
Rogan spreads Russian propaganada not because he's a bad guy (I'm sure he's got good intentions) but because he doesn't realize that Putin's power is fear and nothing else. The total NATO military is many times more powerful than Russia's military, and yet we are the ones getting cold feet. In reality, Putin is incredibiy weak – unless we react to his threats like our naive Joe Rogan does
It's not from hearing propaganda, it's from logical thinking. Every escalation the US does gives the other side the right to escalate as well. The people that are falling for propaganda are the Americans that are giving support because the entire US involvement is biased on benefiting US politicians stock portfolios by using US taxpayer money to purchase weapons from US contractors like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin that the politicians own lots and lots of stock in.
Stand up against Putin… It is terrible that people flip Putin's naked aggression on it's head any blame ANYONE else for his war crimes and aggression! Stand up to the bully!
I don’t have any interest in seeing our tax payer money getting laundered out to Ukraine while the corrupt in power get even more rich. However. I’m still curious what that conversation with klitchso would be like. Listening to both (actual) sides is best way to form opinions
Perfect response
Wait, did he seriously ask Joe to have him on the podcast at the end? wtf
Should they bow down to Russia, and just give them their land? Would you accept it if it was America. You should talk to him.
I agree that all putin’s threats are just that…
Alright. How is that America's problem?
My prediction (understand that this is not what I want to happen. It's just what I think will happen):
The war is going to heat up over the next 2 months because the outgoing US administration wants to make it harder for Trump to be seen as a peaceful world leader.
Then the transfer of power will happen in January, and Trump will tell Putin that his war is over before the end of February. Russia will keep Crimea and probably some of the Donbass. Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO, but they will continue to receive arms from the US and the UK. Ukraine will accept the deal because, ultimately, they have no choice. The death toll is already way above generational replacement levels for Ukraine. Russia can soak that kind of population loss. Ukraine can't. Zelenskyy won't be able to justify suspending elections anymore and will be soundly defeated as soon as Ukrainians are allowed to vote again. Then Ukraine will be economically crippled for decades while they try to repay the west for the hundreds of billions they borrowed under his reign. The country will be forced to sell off its natural resources to the west for pennies on the dollar to try and mitigate the loss.
Russia wins the propaganda war and gets Crimea, free and clear.
The west wins the resource war and strips Ukraine of its mineral value.
Ukraine loses its sons and its land.
Putin will leave Ukraine alone of they agree to certain terms
Lol this is ever israel is doing not Russia
Ukraine is a giant money laundering operation but Putin is in trouble 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Who gives a shit about Ukraine, they want it to Nato doesnt put shit in their to spy on them. Its pretty obvious. If Ukraine never joined Nato the war wouldve never happened
One country is not the worlds problem
A Ukrainian actor first now Ukrainians Tyson has to talk… wonder what Ukrainians citizens think not just elites sitting in mansions
And you're repiting uncle joe propaganda.
How does ukraine war is USA o world problem. Escaleting this a worldwide problem.
Maybe you both could discuss how Ukraine was the epicenter for child trafficking in the 90's. And Joe/Hunter Biden's ties with Ukraine?! Ukraine is just as corrupt as Russia. STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY AND FIGHT YOUR OWN WAR
Yeah Russia can’t take Kyiv or any major Ukrainian city but they’re going to start WW3 against the entire west 😂
Lmfao yes Ukraine we should send you are taxpayer money, then when the Russians threaten ww3 we should risk the lives of our citizens and those of the world……for what exactly?? Where is the benefit for the American people
Ukraine the next potential Poland(cause of WWII). Not our problem. Besides, most corrupt country in Europe.
Klitschko (aka Dr. Steelhammer) needs to be on Rogan!!! Despite their opposing views on the war, I'm sure they have a lot in common and to talk about because Vitali and his brother Wladimir Klitschko are one of the greatest boxers of all time
Rogan spreads Russian propaganada not because he's a bad guy (I'm sure he's got good intentions) but because he doesn't realize that Putin's power is fear and nothing else. The total NATO military is many times more powerful than Russia's military, and yet we are the ones getting cold feet. In reality, Putin is incredibiy weak – unless we react to his threats like our naive Joe Rogan does
That would be a epic show
100% correct my friend. I am NOT afraid of Putin's threats because they're all empty. God Bless Ukraine!
Brotha explained nothing and just said nu-uh
It's not from hearing propaganda, it's from logical thinking. Every escalation the US does gives the other side the right to escalate as well. The people that are falling for propaganda are the Americans that are giving support because the entire US involvement is biased on benefiting US politicians stock portfolios by using US taxpayer money to purchase weapons from US contractors like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin that the politicians own lots and lots of stock in.
Stand up against Putin… It is terrible that people flip Putin's naked aggression on it's head any blame ANYONE else for his war crimes and aggression! Stand up to the bully!
Ya’ll need to smoke weed and chill. Learn to love each other and get over your differences. We thrive on love, not hate. One Love ❤️
I don’t have any interest in seeing our tax payer money getting laundered out to Ukraine while the corrupt in power get even more rich.
However. I’m still curious what that conversation with klitchso would be like. Listening to both (actual) sides is best way to form opinions
Putin's Russia is in "trouble"? Huh ..?
Looks like Ukraine is in trouble!!!!
What a dumb as_
And was that a slight at Trump? With the "great" comment?
Ukraine is finished, give them to Russia….
Nobody wants ww3 over corrupt Ukraine…
Nobody!!!!!!!!!
Let Russia have it …
Let's keep it moving
Klitschko please tell us about the agreement from NATO from 90s about nato being bigger on the Russian Borders…..
Arnold swarzaneghar ?