In this important chat with Professional Agrologist and Environmental Consultant, Michael Stephen, Mike lays out the facts behind tire toxicity, the death of Pacific Salmon, and severe harm to humans and animals who ingest tire debris–and how EVs exacerbate this problem. With Tesla a leader in developing real world solutions to seemingly “impossible” problems, Mike is asking Tesla to take a lead in developing new, better tires that are less toxic and fully recyclable. Is this a very difficult problem? Absolutely. But if anyone can solve it, the incredible engineers at Tesla can!
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Cyber cabs will not produce more rubber dust since they will replace other cars. Come on guys, don’t try so hard to steel man the anti EV argument.
semi-trucks generate significantly more tire pollution than cars due to their weight and usage, with annual emissions up to 40-100 times greater per vehicle.
Maximize steel on steel railroad transportation as was done when replacing horses during the last century and minimize rubber tire usage. Use aircraft that land vertically where that fits.
Develop clean tires. Stop manufacturing dangerous chemicals and components where disposal cannot be controlled.
Excellent episode – from a fellow Vancouverite.
Amazing video, you work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K into trading from just few months ago and now they are multimillionaires
Great idea
The numbers stated in this interview seem exaggerated. 53g of tire wear per 100 km are equivalent to 850 g per 1000 miles. That means, for someone driving about 1000 miles per month that they would shed close to 2 pounds of rubber per month, 24 pounds per year!!! Their tires would be bald long before the end of the year. Please check your numbers before you promote anti EV fear.
“Tesla’s dirty and dangerous secret”. What a title! Are you turning full Tesla bear Dr Know-it-all? Did Tesla invent rubber tires in the last decade? What’s going on? Are you short Tesla stock?
Ridiculous! This is NOT a Tesla problem!
That click-bait title lost you a subscriber, doc.
Troll headline! Why is it a Tesla problem… it is all rubber tires on all brands of vehicles.
Isnt Tesla looking to make airless tires. Which I think would be worse for the environment unless they come up with a better material
I like the idea of inventing sustainable tires.
Those cybertaxis will not be peeling out, so reduced tire wear.
A few things:
the tire industry has been working on airless tires for decades, with no automotive success, but they are in use in lawn equipment and other uses; Tesla was recently working with a tire maker to test some.
I'll add more as replies
I support Elon and avoid those who don't.
Tesla: "I'm tired"
Tesla tires: "I'm tired"
Salmon: "I'M Tired"
Very interesting and informative conversation! I hope Elon and team see this!
You must be fully vaccinated. Only vaccinated people get sick.
Are you going for click bait titles? Are you trying to lose subs? I find I am watching less of your videos. It is a shame.
I don't think that Tesla and other electric semis will increase tire use even if their cost per mile goes below rail. In the US, our rail system distributes cargo regionally with great efficiency, while semis distribute from there. It would not make much sense to change that. Besides, it will take a very long time for electric long haul trucks to even begin being built, much less put on the road in real numbers. The short and medium haul work that Tesla semis are capable of involves a couple million trucks that must be replaced, and there aren't even a couple hundred yet. It'll take a long time. The best thing semis can do for the tire waste is have monitoring systems to warn the driver so they can pull over before blowouts occur, causing damage, destruction and the litter we see all over our highways.
Maybe it's about time for the industry to investigate bringing back retreads? The carcas of the tire doesn't wear like the tread does, so maybe just pouring on new tread with improved chemistry can help.
I understand that EV lovers are recoiling against the idea that EVs wear tires more and thereby pollute more, as this has been used as a rhetorical attack on EVs, usually with wildly inaccurate claims. Further, some ev drivers are seeing amazing tire life, not worse.
I've repurposed tires in a application that is superior than the original tire..my process is patent pending… contact me if you want to read my patent application, etc
The SMART Tire Company is working on a solution.
CLEARY, Michael meant 5.3 gram per 100km IF 53mg/km is correct. That would be around 2.120 kg over 40'000 km driving which is around a lifespan for a Tesla Model 3 tire driving in "normal" ways, without frequent crazy accelerations. Further, it has o be said that Teslas are in general 10% to 205 LIGHTER than other, comparable EVs. Also, ICE SUVs are SO heavy these days that they have the same tire issues like Tesla EVs.
I'm not sure Elon cares about cetaceans and salmon. I've heard he's lost interest in sustainability (hasn't Tesla retracted it's sustainability transition thing now?). Elon probably thinks they're all [the Cetacea and salmon] pet-eating immigrant child rapists. 🙂
Wonderful, we will end up with the equivalent of paper straws as tires 🤪
I just started the video 2 minutes in and I can emphatically say no ev tires do not wear out more quickly it's the nut behind the wheel that wears out the tires. I have a 2020 model y long range with 46,000 miles on the original Continental tires and they will probably last me through the winter.
we should ban rubber tires, I think we need stainless steel tires, or aluminum. I'm sure they'll work great
My last set of cross climate II’s were changed at 100,000 miles on my m3 AWD yes 100k miles on my tires
In Switzerland, rain water collected from street, is processed separately (the rain water goes in special pipes). Yes it was very expensive process. I can't imagine something the USA would do
Thank you for covering this very important topic, John!
Stopped listening to this mor0n when he stated that there are 100mg in a gram. Ffs.
Unsubscribed. That guy’s an idiot and f clickbait titles.
Spidey senses tingling…
Just saying…
Maybe it’s his presentation style…
Wow yeah to combine both airless and much more sustainable tire simultaneously seems wonderful and I hope likely🛞💚
All tires are toxic…nothing new gents.
There is another issue that Tesla needs to deal with. EV fires. I know they burn far less often than ICE vehicles but especially now after Helene, there are videos of a Tesla catching fire in a garage after salt water hits it. For EVs to become acceptable they can not catch fire by mere contact with salt water. No undamaged battery pack should burst into flames, ever. Until Tesla and other EV manufacturers can guarantee this, EVs are going to have a problem no matter what the statistics are. Could a circuit breaker on the battery output stop power surges and fires if there is a short in the system? This could be a simple fix (for future production) if it fixed the problem and might be something that could be added as a retrofit, although perhaps not a cheap retrofit, but doing so would go a long way to overcome one of the most frightening objections to EVs.
Wow…what a click bait B.S. title. Where is the Tesla secret here John? Really disappointing
Using all season tires during summer in "the south" will eat tires, . I still have 6mm left on my 2020 model y factory tires because I use actual summer tires during summer
Since worn out car tires don’t go in US landfills, where do they go? Are they ground up for playgrounds? Is there another recycling use? Hopefully they are not toxic waste.