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In this episode of Theology Applied, David Reece and Pastor Joel discuss how Reformed Evangelicals can achieve unity without embracing theological minimalism.
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Actually i like his ideas on unity
Only unity will be when there's a return to one true Catholic Church! Protestantism has failed especially the cringe American Evengelicalism!
https://youtu.be/-2U0TQosXPk?si=WwUd1oOOeJGb7v_N
"The scum always rises to the top". That includes theologians and "institutions".👂😐😏
Baptism with water happens in the mother's womb and the love of the mother or feminine archetype. You were born innocent, and to innocence and love you must return. It's that simple. Everything else…is just mind chattering of intellect and brainwashing, and making something simple…complicated. Yeshua said: "You must become innocent as a child to enter the kingdom of God".
My opinion and the public opinion of many people already known is illegal. What certainly can be done to make clear that the national holiday of "Thanksgiving" is a day for humidity, respect to "Divine Provadance," and repentance for crimes public and private. Also, the States separatly as Governments should let and encourage institutions of education use whatever version voluntary classes
of the Pentateuch and Christian Bible as educational and literature studies of whatever kind fits community standards. That should be acceptable to most people.
Mr Reece, with all due respect, from your Twitter account it seems like you wouldn’t be willing to unite with other Calvinistic believers that don’t agree with you on certain secondary issues. Would you unite with a pastor that goes out to eat on Sundays or watches football on Sundays? Would you unite with churches that use instruments for music on Sundays and sing more than just psalms?
It's impossible for religions to come together in the power of Unity unless there's a divine intervention from God, and that will only happen when the enemy comes in like a flood
Leaving all (no choice) but to unite.
The Church needs an authority to appeal to….. like a Council of Bishops maybe? lol
Eastern Orthodox, but I am an admirer of Pastor Webbon on certain topics. God be with you all and may you all come into unity with the Church that Christ established. Have a wonderful day!
Good luck, gentlemen. If the giants of reformed faith, RC Sproul and John MacArthur could not come to agreement on baptism, I am a bit skeptical you will have success. Someone will have to deny deeply held convictions. The Ligonier model of unity seems to work very well.
One issue, in reality is that I did a survey of Old and New Testament at home. My Church doesn't do that for kids. I've tried and I am still trying to go through the Heidelburg, but my teens struggle to get it, even some of it is overly complex to me. I'm doing that on my own though. My Church is expository, but we may take 20+ weeks to get through Nehemiah. I try to give the big picture overview through regular Bible reading. Sometimes I feel in over my head and my church doesn't seem to have anything to assist me for me to assist my kids. I'm glad I grew up listening to RC Sproul on the radio and had the "everyone should be a theologian" idea because I can do a lot more than most of my other friends as they have never gotten those real basics down. Reformed Churches are very rare where I'm at. Most congregants never hear things that get talked about in theology podcasts like this. I think unity can come from Churches focusing on teaching Christians to be Christians and not making most all Sundays just a change to outreach to the lost as the primary point of every service. Bring back Sunday school before the Service or on Sunday night or mid-week. When I was a kid, my old Church did that, and it was so great. I bet that helped my dad bring me up a lot and helped my parents and our family be seen a lot more by the pastor and deacons and that had to assist in shepherding us.
The problem is always in the details. For example, should we view the Federal Vision as a heresy that directly attacks the Gospel or is it just adiaphora?
12:16 Westminster, Savoy, and 1689 are actually much more different than just baptism and church government. Westminster disagrees with Savoy and 1689 on church government because they have fundamentally different ideas on the nature of the church. That difference is much more significant than church government. On the sacraments, Westminster and Savoy are in full agreement, but the 1689 is different in ways that seem subtle but are actually quite significant. Westminster and 1689 are both ambiguous on eschatology, but Savoy is explicitly postmil. The difference not mentioned here is covenant theology, probably the most significant reason why it's historically and theologically irresponsible to call the 1689 a Reformed confession. There are historic debates within covenant theology in the Reformed world, but they are on secondary and tertiary issues (again, historically. There are modern proposals that are radical departures from historic Reformed covenant theology). All Reformed churches agreed on the basic structure of the covenants. Thus, Westminster and Savoy agree in their covenant theology. The 1689 and 1689 Federalism borrow Reformed terminology but completely revise Reformed covenant theology such that it loses its Reformed nature and takes on a distinctly Baptist character. All this isn't even to mention the seemingly small but really stupid changes 1689 makes such as cutting the "good and necessary consequence" clause from chapter 1.
@RightResponseMinistries one of the issues we run into is that even "Reformed" churches have abandoned Bible study. Most of the "sermons" in the modern church (reformed included) are little more than blog posts with superficial topics. It has been almost 20 years since I've heard of an elder leading a Bible study, and I have never seen any church where the lead pastor was teaching a rigorous Bible study for men he was training within the church. I appreciate your call for a consolidation, but how do we either 1) get these lay-deacons who have called themselves "elders/pastors" to give up their small kingdoms or 2) get Christians to give up the cotton-candy-Christianity of the modern 501c3 to return to deep fellowship and rigorous study of the Word of God? Some days, I feel like Jeremiah in his commission from God when I speak to churches who consider themselves "reformed" or "conservative."
And you and Hitler would get a long sow will.
Sounds like a good opportunity for a Christian social media platform. Maybe call it "Boroughs" or something like that. Have churches in towns register, with their people online as well. Let them say "yeah, we have this level of personnel, we're in this part of the world, economic conditions here are like this, the housing market here is like this, we need these types of people, and here are our doctrines." The goal here being to facilitate this gathering together and engaging in these covenants and making it easier for people to pick a borough because you have a list of boroughs that's well defined.
Unity must be found in the Scriptures. Confessions can be quite good, but I wonder if Christians get the idea that they’re a complete summary of the Bible. Expository preaching is good, but often Christians can’t see the forest for the trees, and topical preaching can be useful for that reason. Some reformed Christians I know believe that someone cannot be both covenantal and baptist (that is, the proper subject of baptism is the believer). They are wed to confessions and not the Bible. For another example, there are Christians who believe witchcraft is not real because it’s not mentioned in the confessions. They wouldn’t say that, but it’s true. The Bible talks about witchcraft as something real (and sinful, of course).
Speaking of Billy Graham, there's a book by Dr Cathy Burns called Billy Graham and His Friends: A Hidden Agenda? It's available online to read.
We are to be of one mind in Christ Jesus (Romans 15:5-7). The Bible, the Word of God. Not confessions.
Joel, my question is about head coverings. Scripture is not grey on this. Scripture speaks to this even MORE extensively than divorce.
Why is one relegated as a personal difference and why is one beheld as a monumental sin? It seems like we’re picking which commands we want to follow and using disagreement as the basis for not requiring the command to be followed by any specific church.
And for those that would say that head coverings are a grey area, there is not a single objection to head coverings that is biblical, practical, or non-secular.
Did Jesus lay down his life for the Pharisaical Vipers like Joel? This Pig needs to repent of this blatant arrogance.
A few years ago, I led a project for the sake of denominational unity. The greatest challenge we faced was the invitation to participate. Most denomination leaders were willing at the initial concept but almost all of them wanted to be an executive member and welcome others to follow. Nobody wanted to follow or be invited..