The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Cousin Sal hop back in the DeLorean to place a couple bets after rewatching ‘Back to the Future Part II’ starring Michael J Fox and Christopher Lloyd.
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There are no more sequels because Gale and Zemeckis absolutely refuse to make any. Look what eventually happened to all the films from that era that continued to get sequels; Raiders, Star Wars, Alien, Terminator. They all shit the bed. BTTF is a perfect trilogy. Never make another.
BTW, JJ Abrams has a BTTF inspired film in the works right now. Another Super 8 style homage.
One of my annoying nitpicks has to do with gambling and I'm shocked they not only didn't mention it, but glossed over it as a rewatchable scene. When Old Biff is in car with Young Biff for the magical "see, the almanac works" scene, it's just really LAZY storytelling. I know the game was real but the announcer is like "this one is all but over!" And young Biff goes "what are you crazy old man? You heard him. It's over! You lost!" But then like 8 seconds later, they line up for a field goal kick that wins the game 19-17. So my nitpick is….that's not so CRAZY a prediction at all. And why would any sports announcer say a game was over if they are about to line up for a winning FG?? They made it seem like it was this crazy comeback but if I went to a bar and a team was lining up for a winning FG and I said "I can tell the future. I bet he hits this and they win". People would shrug and go. Yeah maybe.
Always felt it was the "twisting the Oreo cookies is his tell in poker" moment of the movie where Zemeckis said "I know we're rushing this pivotal moment and dumbing it down for non gamblers but we need people to simply understand so let's move on". Always was weird to me and the kind of minutia I'm SHOCKED they didn't cover in this podcast. Unless I've missed something all these years. Haha.
Uh, Bill, no good quotes, really!?!? What about “Hey McFly, you bojo, those boards don't work on water! Unless you've got POWER!”
Zemeckis has lifelong rights to the series
To whoever edits the videos, the videos would benefit from muted movie clips in the background to help the video structure. RedLetterMedia does a great job with this. Keep up the great work.
Ummm bill, you just disqualified yourself as a sports accuracy consultant.
Seattle over broncos was 2014.
2015 was Patriots beating Seattle with the goal line interception.
I think you’re also going to need to go into the Boston sports fan penalty box.
So no one edits these ever??
The Winner of this movie was definitely the special effects and sci-fi storyline. There are no standout acting performances. But the Jaws hologram looks amazing, the hoverboarding looks awesome, the flying cars look great. The whole idea of revisiting a long sequence from the original movie from a different perspective is pretty ambitious, and they pull it off pretty well. Awesome special effects work for the time. Love the flying DeLorean getting hit by lightning at the end – looked amazing.
I too look back at 2015 as a tumultuous time. Cant believe we elected that guy.
I think 2001: A Space Odyssey was first use of video phone…minor nit pick. Great episode.
How about "back 2 the future"
Sal looks like someone who spends a lot of time at casinos
Simmons has a great tan
The number of bets I'd have to throw to not get caught – I've thought about this question for so many years….
“Greatest gambling movie?” All of that discussion and absolutely zero love for Ace Rothstein in “Casino“. The entire movie may be about a whole lot more, but Ace Rothstein was one of the greatest gamblers ever, and he was working WITHOUT an almanac.
Sal, you can bet on the Mets losing in CT.
spent the $90 on the B2F1 VHS
The ending of BTTF was such a great ending to a perfect movie; but it totally handcuffed them with the sequels. A time jump would have pissed people off and would have created too many questions. Also, Crispin Glover's complaint about the ending of Back to the Future is kinda fair but it's not like the McFlys are living in a mansion. They have the same house but it's cleaner, nicer furniture and they were able to get Marty a truck (probably the biggest expense shown). George just releases his first novel at 47 years old (as a writer, this is tracking for me, lol). They are better off but not so much better off that it hurts the themes of the movie or sends a bad message.
Jim Decker (the actual Jim Decker) became a home builder and built my house in 2006!
2:09 Love the movie but the anxiety inducing nature of it is one of my only gripes: it gets exhausting with how much goes wrong for Marty & Doc… again… and again…
ADDITIONAL FACTS: Zemeckis and Gale wanted to promote 2 and 3 simultaneously when 2 came out so people would know ahead of time there would be two parts to the movie, but Universal decided not to. So, when audiences saw 2 and realized they had to wait until next year for the conclusion, they told friends to skip the movie or wait till it came out on VHS. As a result, the movie took a dive after its first week in theaters.
Also, Part 2 was not the first VHS release from Universal.
Great episode and more cousin Sal on The Rewatchables.
Also, my wife walked it halfway thru the episode while I was watching and asked “why is Bill dressed like an 8th grader in that polo?”
Cheryl Wheeler Duncan (since passed) shoutout – hover board stuntwoman who on-camera was (visibly) run into one of the courthouse pillars outside, & then missed the glass window, being dropped 30 feet to the concrete – would've died on set had she landed face up. She was glad they kept her work in the film, & there was no attempt to erased/do-over the sequence.
You can see her fall from the inside courthouse pov shot.
My family visited Universal Studios in the summer of 1989. The 2015 time square was under construction. The tour tram parked in front of the 7-11 and I was intrigued by what I saw. Too bad none of it was seen up close in the film. The prop I would want from the film is Doc’s money tray with currency from 20 different years. It was cool, but the fact the tray had no credit cards was one prediction they missed.
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Weird. I just watched this movie.
"What happened to the Libyans?" They shot Doc in 1, they assume he's dead. That's it. Also, from their perspective, its been half a day since they shot him, they've bolted out of town since.
1 is better but id rather watch 2
If you guys dislike the filmmakers casting Michael J. Fox to play his own daughter, wait until you rewatch III and realize that Lea Thompson is playing Marty's great grandmother Maggie in 1885. Because that TRULY makes no sense. Fox playing Marty Jr., Marlene, and Seamus McFly and Tom Wilson playing Griff while goofy and lazy has a logic to it. In movies like Back To The Future that deal with the past, it's not uncommon for the main actor to play the younger version of his father or his own son. But having Lea Thompson who played Marty's mother (and therefore shares no ancestry with the McFly family) also play the grandmother of her own husband is a massive fuck up. Why would Lorraine look like George's grandmother? It must've been just laziness or as Sal eluded too, budgetary issues.
I'm surprised Chris didn't want Van Zants bearer bonds from Heat
21:09 "I don't know if I want more of this". Chris, that's exactly how I felt in the years after I saw 1 but before I saw 2 or 3. Back To The Future is so good and self contained, even with that cliffhanger ending, that they never needed to make a sequel. I like 2 and 3 but they're unnecessary.
Why were people unhappy with the ending of part 2 and the trailer?
My brother and I have watched this movie a million times and it was only recently that we realized that the "put some money on the cubbies" guy was the mechanic from 1955 that charged biff to have the crap removed from his car
The Jetsons had face time phone calls in 1962!!
CR on the gravity of the time travel in a BTTF modern day remake:
"Go back and tell Barack Obama, you know what, maybe don't make fun of Donald Trump today.."
Damn that hits hard, especially four months out from an election that could potentially spell the end of our American experiment as we know it.
Why doesn't 2015 change when Old Biff comes back? Because Marty and Doc ultimately succeed in the past, which nullifies Old Biff's actions.
Now we’re doing mid-tier sequels, but not “The Faculty?”
Bill…common man. It’s time.
Part 3 was an abomination
Been listening since the og heat pod. Best podcast there is
2015 Marty has the NUKE ‘EM board game from RoboCop on the table in his tv room.
I love all three, I'm a huge fan but part 2 is my favorite
You guys should definitely still do Hanks v Cruise even when one of them is already the star of the movie. Would Forest Gump be better with Tom? (For example) Days of Thunder better with Hanks? If the other actor wins maybe they get 2 points?
Imagine actor Crispin Glover being in the sequels; serving as rich Biff's butler dusting Lorraine's breast implants for Biff to snort cocaine; suck and fuck.
TAKE
THE FUTURE
BACK<===
BACK<===TO THE FUTURE PART II
(Rated R)
REWRITE "PART II" WITHOUT USING SPORTS ALMANAC.
Senior Biff realizes "Calvin Klein" and discovers time machine DMC.
Therefore senior Biff uses DMC to travel BACK<=== to 1955 to life coach his teenage self and alter the first movie.
When Doc and Marty return to 1985; its a whole new slew of family drama.
Doc abd Marry return to 1955; PART IIs Doc and Marry vs senior Biff abd teenage Biff…ensure Marry's first trip to 1955 isnt interfered
Marty isn't cool in 1985. He hangs out with a crazy old man, he plays noisy music no one likes with a band he doesn't seem to be friends with. It's not until he goes back to 1955 that he becomes cool before he screws that up.
Would've been the biggest swing to have opened with Marty, Doc & Jennifer returning FROM saving their kids, never mention it again and tell a totally new time travel story.
PS Loved seeing Doc Brown fall in love in Back To The Future Part 3. You guys are waaaaay too harsh on that movie!
The only Back to the Future that I actually like is the 1st one! I didn't like the 2nd or the 3rd ones. Like Chris said, the 1st one is a perfect movie. And it is the most rewatchable out of the 3 of them. There was no reason for Jennifer to go with Marty and Doc. He knocked her out and even when she came to, she was getting in the way. And yes, it was weird to see Michael J. Fox play his daughter. They couldn't have found an actress. It's not like, they needed her for the rest of the movie. Just a few parts.
The one franchise that hasn't been ruined by modern day wokeness. I think the first 2 movies are amazing and the 3rd is the weakest but still a pretty ending.